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  •  WTF (6+ / 0-)

    I expect to read stuff like this in a John Birch Society newsletter. Not here. Wow, 1950's rightwing talking polnts..

    •  Yeah.. (2+ / 0-)
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      We Portland Lefties are so well known for our right wing politics.

      Most on the left here in Portland I've conversed with are against fluoridation.

      The right wing thought fluoridation was some government conspiracy. Nice attempt at conflating motives and arguments.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sat May 18, 2013 at 04:10:40 PM PDT

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      •  there are weird points of intersection (2+ / 0-)
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        between teabaggers and firebaggers.  it happens semi-regularly.

        •  Oh, I forgot (3+ / 0-)

          We must not ever have points of intersection, no matter how different the motivations! We must run from any similarity to any group which the status quo mainstream Dems disapprove of, even if the comparison is completely flawed.

          Let's embrace the middle. That's where it is all happening, baby!

          The other day I was in a discussion about my student loans and the draconian treatment I am experiencing from both the lender and the government. I found myself explaining my ordeal to a guy who is a bit of a redneck with "don't tread on me" flags hanging on his wall, and pictures of military ships. In other words, a person who fits a tea party profile.

          I was surprised when he exclaimed to me, "You know what I think is really unfair about your story? It's the idea you have to buy an education in this country!!!" To say the least, I was surprised. If the tea-party folk ever wake up sufficiently and see what is really going on, as this man in the story is beginning to do, there will be real confluence and intersectionality, and then hold onto your authoritarian hat, for you may lose it.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sat May 18, 2013 at 04:37:51 PM PDT

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          •  Well, it looks like some are for protecting our (1+ / 0-)
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            precious bodily fluids:

            "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

            by TofG on Sat May 18, 2013 at 08:01:44 PM PDT

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            •  Sweet... (0+ / 0-)

              Ridicule is a powerful weapon of those who fall for the weak polemics of avoiding substance.

              Bravo. Let's see, not wanting to be forced to ingest a substance everyday of my life is equal to the paranoia of protecting bodily fluids.

              "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

              by ZhenRen on Sat May 18, 2013 at 08:07:11 PM PDT

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        •  Yup, I've run across several sites (1+ / 0-)
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          that at first seem to promote an "all natural happy hippy life style" yadda yadda, then when you look a little further you discover they are affiliated with Alex Jones network of nuttiness etc... Three that come immediately to mind are

          I've found on facebook that some friends that repost from these sites  often begin a slide into the crazy and start chemtrail ranting. It's weird.

      •  That's because most of them are ill-informed (1+ / 0-)
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        and frightened by the usual anti-fluoridation crap that infests the Internet.

    •  It really isn't the 1950s now (1+ / 0-)
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      Horace Boothroyd III

      jakedog, you are seriously behind the times. It isn't the 1950s anymore.

      Years have passed. Lot of research has been done.

      Civil rights groups in the South are opposing fluoridation because of the disproportionately adverse effect on poor children in the African-American community. Guess what: they're not John Birchers.

      Start with reading 50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation. That will give you an idea of the reasons, in 2013, that people don't want it.

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