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  •  When does this end? This is evil (4+ / 0-)
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    Extra evil. They do do this to boys who are 18 with 15 yr old girlfriends...ruins their life as they are "sex offenders" also. If parents don't like boy or are vindicative or anyone once to get back on him, he's lost.

    So Parents of teenagers Please warn them about Sex with those under 16  (age of consent) when they are older!

    But this one? Parents turned them in because they are Gay.
    Horrendous!

    •  I see above age of consent varies so nix (2+ / 0-)
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      the 'under 16". Just kids have to know what the law is. Have explained to them how lives are ruined by vindictive people because teens dating eachother falls through the cracks of a law meant to prevent minors from sigificantly older predators.
      Need to change those laws to put in something if kids are within 3-4 yrs of eachother.

      •  So 14 on 10 is ok? I know that is not what you (1+ / 0-)
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        mean. That is why there is no easy answer. I do agree that kids should be taught to pursue relationships within their own age group. Notice I said kids. If a 60 yr old wants a relationship with a 30 yr old that is a hell of a lot different.

        if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

        by mrsgoo on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:23:41 AM PDT

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        •  teens. Ten is not a teen (4+ / 0-)
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          Teen starts at thirteen. It doesn't have to be four yrs, but that's what many states have. it can be three. they can say for teens 14 and over if you/people like.

          The point is that a senior dating a sophmore who are 2yrs 1 month apart in age...the senior will be 18 the sophmore 15 and the older one if they have sex is breaking the law in some of these states and is open to being prosecuted for rape.

          They can put any restrictions in the law so it makes sense.
          Just like this Lesbian couple here, an almost 16 yr old with a just turned 18 yr old is not a huge disparity. It's pretty normal.

          No need to choose the extremes (10 and 14) to prove a rule. No one should be having sex with prepubescent children. Forteen is too young in my mind to be honest as well if I were a parent of the kid!

          •  That is my gut feeling as well.... (3+ / 0-)
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            Forteen is too young in my mind to be honest as well if I were a parent of the kid!
            Fourteen would be the lowest age I would accept. And that is pushing it. I thought I was the smartest thing since sliced bread at 14 - really, I was dumber than a box of rocks! Now when I was 16, I really was the smartest thing on the face of the earth! heehee! If I could put my 50+ brain into my 16 yr old body - I would rock!!

            if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

            by mrsgoo on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:40:23 AM PDT

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    •  As somebody mentioned way up thread.... (1+ / 0-)
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      15 will get ya 20! Not that it is ever going to stop two kids that wanna do the deed no matter their orientation. The difference between 14 and 18 IS huge. I think more education is the answer. Sure wish I had more of it when I was 14 and was attracted to a senior in HS who did everything but rape me when I was stupid enough to get in his car!!! And who did I blame? Myself!

      if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

      by mrsgoo on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:11:13 AM PDT

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      •  what about three years then? (4+ / 0-)
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        15 and 18?

        IF age of consent is 16 it should still be a misdemeanor but NOT "you are a sex offender" if the other party is within a few years of the "victim" and she says it was consensual (even tho she can't consent at 15).

        Point is we are trying to stop abuse. We can write the laws so they work but don't ruin the lives of teens because of a technicality.

        If he "did everything but raped you", I am sorry that happened. That sounds like assault and that it wasn't consensual. That is illegal regardless of your age or his right? (and also different than the scenarios here where two people close in age and have been dating have sex but one is called a rapist because of a technicality).

        Hope you still don't blame self now. It was the older person's fault,and you made a mistake because you were a kid and had a lapse in judgement to get in that car. I did the same with an older guy when I missed the bus and was desparate not to be late for my job. He drove to his house instead. I freaked out and got out of the car.I was 16. If he'd raped me it'd been my stupid judgement but his fault I figure.

        •  Oh I'm way past that now. I just don't know how (1+ / 0-)
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          we can draw a line in the sand regarding age of consent without running into the "exceptions". That is what makes this such a problem. Your experience at 16 sounds very like something that happened to me at 18. All of it traumatic. I want to fall back on we need far more comprehensive sex education than we have today. Girls need to be taught that saying NO! is ok. Too many mixed signals are in the media. And boys need to be taught that NO means NO!

          if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

          by mrsgoo on Sun May 19, 2013 at 02:28:37 AM PDT

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          •  we can write (0+ / 0-)

            not have "exceptions" to the law itself. I agree that doesn't work. But the law can be written with a three year apart teen exemption because we need to acknowledge the reality that it's normal for teens to day a bit older or younger. Stlll have ages of consent but if close togeather FOR TEENS not kids they needn't be labeled a sex offender.

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