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  •  Better safe than sorry (0+ / 0-)

    if you are the agent undercover or an asset. And I don't want the corporate media or baggers making those distinctions by what is politically advantageous.

    •  Really? (5+ / 0-)

      Can't have information get out because someone you don't agree with politically might get wind of it? I guess you don't care much to live in a free society.

      •  If it's possible for you to NOT think (0+ / 0-)

        like a partisan hack for a moment. Put yourself in the position of an Agent or an foreign asset [that are taking enormous risk, in case you've forgotten or don't care], the mere fact of proximity to classified info by people without clearance is chilling; ergo [a treat to our National Security]. We have a legal system for declassifying documents and leaking isn't it.”

        •  Put yourself in the position of a crooked (0+ / 0-)

          and/or incompetent official who wants to hide their wrong-doing from the general public. Nixon claimed the Watergate break-in, and the less touted break-in to the Mexican Embassy, and some of the data on bribes he received from Mafioso were all part of national security.

          You might have secret agents and strategies to protect, but you ain't got 90 million a year of them.


          Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

          by Jim P on Mon May 20, 2013 at 06:30:32 PM PDT

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          •  Well you don't have to put yourself (0+ / 0-)

            in the position of someone that bears false witness with casual ease.

            •  In short, most of the "secrets" are CYA. (0+ / 0-)

              Got nothing to do with protecting the nation.


              Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

              by Jim P on Mon May 20, 2013 at 07:40:33 PM PDT

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              •  I'll say it again (0+ / 0-)

                We have a legal way to declassify documents for folks without clearance. Leaks have chilling effect on the intelligence community and negatively effect our ability to do counter-intelligence. If people stop talking to us because they might end up on the evening news; how do we make up for that lost intel? Should the POTUS blog post the PDB or just email it to journalist after the briefing?

                •  The legal way to declassify documents (0+ / 0-)

                  can be, and has been, stymied very easily. Repeatedly. And how do you know which "secrets" to even try to declassify if they are "secrets."?

                  As to our ability to conduct the Eternal War on Everywhere All the Time.... besides the insanity of that (and I mean, quite literally, "insane") there's the concomitant destruction of our freedom. That's the context.


                  Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

                  by Jim P on Tue May 21, 2013 at 10:48:15 AM PDT

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                  •  None of you will answer the question (0+ / 0-)

                    How do we make up for the lost intel? And don't tell me it's the price of freedom. None of you are going to stand over a murdered loved one and proclaim that then take responsibility. It'll be: how did this happen? Why didn't we know? And it's all their fault. So the system isn't perfect, it is at least sane. Oh and I didn't know my home security system constituted an "Eternal War on Everywhere All the Time" I thought I was protecting my family.

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