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  •  You can't do that and still think voting in the (2+ / 0-)
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    BeerNotWar, cynndara

    2016 election for Clinton or even Warren will make a difference.  That's called cognitive dissonance.   Or that it's all the republicans fault or even most of their fault.  Have you reached that step Ray.  
    We can't play by their rules, they always win.  

    "I'm an antiwar propagandist as accused by democrats. Not even republicans have called me that."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Mon May 20, 2013 at 12:50:15 PM PDT

    •  You play by their rules until you get IN. (2+ / 0-)
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      chmood, blueoasis

      You can't work it from the outside.  Notice the fairly successful efforts of the "Tea Party"--infiltrating government at every level--from school board to Congress...

      Imagine our strategy as scrambling up their backs and standing on their heads and then springboarding over the wall....

      If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

      by livjack on Mon May 20, 2013 at 01:35:30 PM PDT

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    •  I've never missed an election in over 25 years. (1+ / 0-)
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      blueoasis

      Not even local and mid-term elections with very low turnout.  About making a difference, I think that by and large elections are a sham, but I still participate in it to, number one, retain the symbolic value of voting, and number two, because there are some marginal consequences to elections.

      There is no disconnect there; no cognitive dissonance.

      The key is that we need to understand that in order to take on the corruption, the electoral system, politics as usual is not enough.

      We have to push for change from outside the system as well.  We have to be firing the engine of democracy on all cylinders.

      •  There are other ways to work within the system (2+ / 0-)
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        Ray Pensador, cynndara

        than voting for one of the two Presidential candidates presented by the completely corrupted major parties.  So I agree that we need to work within and outside the political system.  But I think voting for Clinton or Bush again, and listening and watching the long drawn out election campaigns that will come before we know it, is just playing into their hands.  It's all a sham and voting for the two major party candidates just continues to give it legitimacy.  It's time in my opinion to make a mockery of what democracy has become at the upper levels.   All options should be on the table.

        "I'm an antiwar propagandist as accused by democrats. Not even republicans have called me that."

        by BigAlinWashSt on Mon May 20, 2013 at 02:04:13 PM PDT

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