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  •  I chose "demonizing the enemy" on the poll (9+ / 0-)

    Great topic tonight, as usual, cfk!

    I remember being profoundly irritated by the only book I've ever read--or ever will read--by someone named Brad Thor.  In this ghastly book (picked up at an airport bookstore in a hurry), Muslims were the demons.  I LOATHE that sort of thing!  At the end of the book there was a sort of "postscript" by the author, in which he praised Glenn Beck!

    Awfulness of awfulness!

    At the moment I'm reading The Sisterhood and enjoying it mightily in spite of the atrocious grammar and the spelling mistakes.  It's the Kindle edition.  Are there no copyeditors nowadays?  

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Wed May 22, 2013 at 06:48:23 PM PDT

    •  Good question and a sad one (8+ / 0-)
      Are there no copyeditors nowadays?

      I worry about this a lot.

      I finally chose straw man on the poll though I dislike all of the choices.  Making up what "someone" said and then shooting it down is so dishonest that my blood curdles.

      wiki says it better:

      a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

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      by cfk on Wed May 22, 2013 at 06:53:48 PM PDT

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    •  Most editors have been replaced by interns, (4+ / 0-)
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      cfk, Brecht, Youffraita, Monsieur Georges

      methinks. Or employers want editors that are also designers and database managers--three positions for the pay of one.

      •  Acquisition editors seldom (3+ / 0-)
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        have the time to do a complete line-edit on a book. And publishers no longer hire out-of-house line editors to fix this stuff.

        There are still copyeditors, though, and proofreaders. And the stuff the copyeditors miss -- !!!!!

        I once caught (in page proofs, mind you) a major continuity problem in a novel by a fairly prominent author. I caught it b/c I was proofing the book, so reading it extremely closely and in a timely manner.

        But it's very expensive to do that kind of rewrite in page proofs: the copyeditor should have caught it. The overworked acquisitions editor should have, but I can understand how they didn't. The discrepancy was about 150 pages after the original setup, if you know what I mean. People forget, esp. if they are reading ten different mss at once.

        Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

        by Youffraita on Wed May 22, 2013 at 10:31:24 PM PDT

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