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  •  IT workers are not upper middle class (2+ / 0-)
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    FG, raptavio

    IT workers are not part of the wealthy.  the wealthy folks are the ones who own the companies where the IT people work.

    You would be surprised at how little these people earn, how much salaries have already flattened and sunk.

    I'm shocked you would cheer for financial misfortune to fall on middle class workers.

    "If you can't take their money, eat their food, drink their booze and then vote against them, you have no business being up there."

    by Betty Pinson on Wed May 22, 2013 at 07:05:28 AM PDT

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    •  A lot those on H1-B Visas don't earn shit here (1+ / 0-)
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      doingbusinessas

      but then, they don't plan to live here.  They want 4-5 years working in the US because it will make them a manager when they move back home.

      I'll take the huddled masses, yearning to breathe free rather than the spoiled offspring of the people who made them huddle in the first damn place.

      "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

      by JesseCW on Wed May 22, 2013 at 07:12:08 AM PDT

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      •  Oh yeah, spoiled (0+ / 0-)

        I work every day right now with Indian IT staff from a partner company.  They are in Bangalore.  They work 12 hours a day, routinely working until midnight.  They are configuring a datacenter in Europe that uses my company's products.  That is the reality of international competition.  They are not "spoiled".  They go to work past people defecating on the side of the road in 110 degree heat.  They are motivated.  

      •  Facts? (0+ / 0-)

        Show me a good programmer on an H1B who is being abused, and I'll show you a programmer who will be recruited into another US company who will be more than glad to sponsor the H1B.  Right now, at least, there is a shortage of qualified programmers and IT personnel.

        We have 20 sys admins where I work.  25% of the IT staff hired do not cut it.  They don't get stuff done.  They miss deadlines.  They show no interest in their jobs.  The do not reach out and problem solve.  Or, they are just not that bright and can't do the work.  Anyone, regardless of ethnicity, immigration status, age, sex, whatever who can do the job is extremely valued.

        Sorry, it is a very competitive world.  We need to make places for the people who can't do high-tech jobs.    Not everyone can be a good high-tech worker.

        The people I feel little sympathy for are the college graduates who did not prepare themselves to earn money, and now are shocked because they are not employable.  

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