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  •  OK, Kos, tell us why we should take away... (1+ / 0-)
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    CajunBoyLgb

    ...an issue from Democrats in the 2014 elections and let Republicans look less extreme on immigration?

    Tell us why that is smart politics.

    I'm all ears.

    Obama is the Chickenshit-in-Chief for failing to stand up to Republicans on all their phony scandals, from the "beer summit," to Van Jones, "death panels," Shirley Sherrod, contraception, Benghazi, and the IRS.

    by expatjourno on Wed May 22, 2013 at 03:06:03 PM PDT

    •  Smart policy and smart politics aren't the same. (0+ / 0-)

      Many of us prefer policy to politics.

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      Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
      UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

      by jncca on Wed May 22, 2013 at 03:34:44 PM PDT

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      •  Politicians who prefer policy to politics... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...are known as losers.

        And when you lose, you don't get your policies implemented.

        Obama is the Chickenshit-in-Chief for failing to stand up to Republicans on all their phony scandals, from the "beer summit," to Van Jones, "death panels," Shirley Sherrod, contraception, Benghazi, and the IRS.

        by expatjourno on Wed May 22, 2013 at 03:51:38 PM PDT

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        •  Tell that to Obama (0+ / 0-)

          who got re-elected after compromising on the stimulus, Obamacare, and Dodd-Frank in order to actually get shit done.

          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
          politicohen.com
          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Wed May 22, 2013 at 04:06:41 PM PDT

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          •  All of which are colossal failures. (2+ / 0-)
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            The stimulus was half the size it should have been. ACA is being shredded. Dodd-Frank is laughably ineffective to the point window dressing.

            And, incidentally, by ignoring politics and focusing on policy, he saddled the country with a Republican House and a whole bunch of gerrymandered congressional districts.

            Given the mandate he had to work with, his record can only be described as one of underachievement.

            Obama is the Chickenshit-in-Chief for failing to stand up to Republicans on all their phony scandals, from the "beer summit," to Van Jones, "death panels," Shirley Sherrod, contraception, Benghazi, and the IRS.

            by expatjourno on Wed May 22, 2013 at 04:14:52 PM PDT

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