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  •  it's no more frightening (1+ / 0-)
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    lotlizard

    than George Bush's new world order.

    what the fuck do you think is going on here? of course it's all about domination. just not the way you think.

    right now, the jihadists are fighting for their lives. if they win, it would be incredibly ironic because it will be, in large part, thanks to greedy westerners selling them the weapons to do it.

    people take sides. you think one is better than the other. and you're right. for you, the western model works because it's how you were raised and how you think.

    but setting sides as good or evil or one insane and the other not is what is insane and a little naive.

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do.” - Mark Twain

    by pfiore8 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 04:50:04 AM PDT

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    •  Bush is out of office (2+ / 0-)
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      And yes, I believe that the side that wants everyone to convert to one religion or die (or live under theocratic subjugation until they can't take it any more and convert) is far worse than the side that wants the entire world to live under democracy. Personally, I think we should leave their side alone, if they want to live as religious fanatics. But surely you would agree that our civilization is preferable to living under an Islamic theocracy?

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      by Noisy Democrat on Thu May 23, 2013 at 05:25:01 AM PDT

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      •  for me, any theocratic rule (1+ / 0-)
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        is not acceptable. one seems better than another because of our cultural bias, i would think.

        i'm a jew, but i would never ever accept the crap being pulled in Israel and I hate that somehow people think if we're Jews we must be the same as an Israeli... and they are confusing us with a country that politicizes religion in a very (to me) negative way. in fact, from what i've read, many of the Jews living there deplore the influence of theocrats and the immoral treatment of the palestinians ...

        and look, the old testament was a rough and tumble story and is the basis for much of the koran ... in fact, i'd say jews and muslims, in extremes, have a lot in common. and the protestants are as hardcore.

        “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do.” - Mark Twain

        by pfiore8 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 05:33:45 AM PDT

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        •  I'm against any theocratic rule as well (0+ / 0-)

          The #1 theocratic danger to the US and the world is the Islamist movement, as far as I can see. I'm not saying that Christian Dominionism is small potatoes, but Islam is a larger and faster-growing problem, IMHO. The right-wing Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel are making life miserable for many Israelis and Palestinians, but they aren't trying to take over the US and Europe.

          Please visit: http://www.jkmediasource.org

          by Noisy Democrat on Sun May 26, 2013 at 05:54:49 AM PDT

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