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  •  You're welcome. But (2+ / 0-)
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    Be Skeptical, jabney

    you may not feel the same about me following this comment.

    If, as we should, we do not blame Islam generally for the foul murder committed by apparent Islamists in Woolwich yesterday, we equally should not, as I understand your diary and comments to do, blame it on "the west" or "western governments." We ought to be able to say yes to peace, yes to the rule of law, and no to war without suggesting that our societies' and governments' imperfections somehow excuse this kind of response. Indeed, how is failing to hold that line different from those who  excuse torture with the argument that it is, or was, necessary to defend our countries against al qaeda and their ilk?

    Shalom v' salaam; peace and wholeness

    by another American on Thu May 23, 2013 at 06:01:03 AM PDT

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    •  blame? (1+ / 0-)
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      onanthebarbarian

      the men who killed that poor soul in London are guilty, by all appearances and should take full blame/accountability for this horrible mad act.

      i'm not EXCEPTING evil behavior because of the Western Worlds hand in it... I am giving a context for off-the-grid behavior.

      and like it or not, greed and violence and this feeling of living in a world that's more like a runaway train doesn't help our chemical inhibitors to work as they do in more peaceful times.

      these things are related, imo. it is foolish to look at single incidents and not understand the energy driving this madness.

      “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do.” - Mark Twain

      by pfiore8 on Thu May 23, 2013 at 06:47:12 AM PDT

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