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  •  OK you got me (0+ / 0-)

    3 liberal groups were looked at. Wow, 3, not 300 conservative groups. Three. it's all equal now.

    under pressure after admitting it targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups for scrutiny in recent years, also had its eye on at least three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status.

    Assclown indeed. Sleep well.

    •  When the name of your so-called (0+ / 0-)

      'social welfare organization' stands for 'Taxed Enough Already', you deserve to be targeted. That's what the IRS is supposed to do,

      ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:08:13 PM PDT

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      •  Really dude? (0+ / 0-)

        That is not what "they the IRS is supposed to do". You are Ok when the IRS decides that they can arbitrarily target groups because of their political affiliation? Wow. Nixon would be proud.

        And again, the fallacy is that these groups did nothing to warrant the delay. Conservative (or liberal) sounding names aren't supposed to bring the wrath of the IRS upon you.

        The IRS is not supposed to target anyone based on their opinions, which is what they did. They are supposed to enforce the tax code fairly and objectively. That's why heads are rolling now.

        •  Yes, really, dude (0+ / 0-)

          This whole "scandal" is complete crap.

          The IRS was reviewing political organizations funded by big money donors (Koch bros, et al.) who were attempting to illegally not disclose their donors. The IRS was inundated with these applications, and used common sense to flag applications that were obviously shell political organizations posing as "social welfare organizations".

          These Teabagger idiots got caught trying to game the tax system and are now complaining that they got caught using targeted methods.

          Perhaps if they didn't try to subvert the system first and basically commit tax fraud none of this would have happened.  

          ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

          by Jeff Y on Fri May 24, 2013 at 01:52:28 PM PDT

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          •  You are absolutely wrong (0+ / 1-)
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            1- You say "The IRS was reviewing political organizations funded by big money donors". You have any proof of that?  That is NOT how the use of conservative terms came to be used. In fact we have no idea WHO'S idea it was. In fact most of these orgs were budgets in single thousands. Small potatoes.

            2- "he IRS was inundated with these applications, and used common sense to flag applications" No. As I have repeatedly pointed out. The use of these politically biased terms was implemented BEFROE the rise in applications began.

            3- "were obviously shell political organizations posing as "social welfare organizations"." No again, as they all got approved, even after the unnecessary extra scrutiny.

            4- "These Teabagger idiots got caught trying to game the tax system" Got caught how? When? Where?

            Man I'm glad the URS admits their problem, I can't see why you won't.

            •  All of these Tea Party groups that sprouted up (0+ / 0-)

              seeking 501(c)(4) status were frauds. They weren't doing anything illegal, although it should be illegal.

              The 501(c)(4) designation is for groups that can be fairly described as “social welfare organizations” or “local associations of employees.” Your average Tea Party group is neither of those things.

              When you start describing anti-tax fanaticism as 'social welfare', you've allowed everything to be social welfare. "We're a social welfare group that tries to deny people access to health care!"

              The other thing about 501(c)(4) groups is that they have to be for-profit and they can't have a primarily political purpose. Does that sound like a Tea Party group to you?

              Maybe if the Republicans funded the IRS at an adequate level and didn't deluge them with bogus tax-avoidence schemes, the agency wouldn't feel compelled to take short cuts.

              Now please do us all a favor and go fuck yourself, you right wing hack.

              This case is closed.

              You lost.

              Go back to Planet Wingnuttia, troll boy.

              ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

              by Jeff Y on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:45:41 PM PDT

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              •  HA HA HA (0+ / 1-)
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                You are so amazingly lame. Reconcile:

                All of these Tea Party groups that sprouted up (0+ / 0-)
                seeking 501(c)(4) status were frauds
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                with:

                They weren't doing anything illegal,
                Holy cow, that is amazing... I am tying to figure that out.

                "Republicans' don't fund the IRS

                The targeting of conservative names began before any increase in applications.

                In other words, while there was an increase in 2010, it was relatively small. The real jump did not come until 2011, long after the targeting of conservative groups had been implemented. Also, it appears Lerner significantly understated the number of applications in 2010 (“1500”) in order to make her claim of “more than doubled.”
                You would think that someone so adamant in their olin would have a fact or two to back that up. nit the case.

                And by the way, do you eat with that mouth? And I am sure your mother taught you better manners than to resort to vulgarity when you lose an argument.

                If you ever, and I mean ever,  care to present a single solitary fact in this debate please let me know. Otherwise read and wise up.

                •  They also weren't denied their applications (0+ / 0-)

                  Now get lost troll.

                  ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

                  by Jeff Y on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:39:23 PM PDT

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                •  And by the way, assclown (0+ / 0-)

                  If you think I'm going to accept without question the word of the idiot who calls himself a 'fact-checker' (Kessler) at WaPo (the same idiot who just claimed that Jonathan Karl did nothing wrong re WH e-mails), you're more delusional than I thought you were.

                  See ya!

                  ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

                  by Jeff Y on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:48:53 PM PDT

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                  •  Right (0+ / 0-)

                    just take your word for it. Your inability to accept reality os bizarre.

                    How about this then assclown?

                    And that they weren't denied their apps is MY point. They were targeted for no rational reason. Can you read and think? Or did mommy make you get off the computer before you finish sounding out the big words?

                    •  Why should we be surprised (0+ / 0-)

                      that the IRS takes special attention to the tax forms of you Teabagger morons? Judging from the terrible spelling on your protest signs, attention to detail isn’t really your thing.

                      ------"Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend."------- Kurt Cobain

                      by Jeff Y on Sat May 25, 2013 at 01:19:30 PM PDT

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                      •  can you please read (0+ / 0-)

                        or get your mommy to read to you? This has all been explained. They were singled out excuse of politics, which is not OK> for anyone.

                        I'll ask you Why WOULD the IRS have any reason to single them out?

                        And don't call me names just because you can't read or think.

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