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  •  How can we benefit? (1+ / 0-)
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    I am not so worried about Washington hypocrisy. We can start questioning our candidates for city governments about militarization of their police departments. If Michael Bloomberg runs for President we have an issue: his treatment of OWS.
    We can even talk about actions the State Department deplores in other countries.

    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 09:24:52 AM PDT

    •  Washington is not us (0+ / 0-)

      We are not Washington. Washington is fine for a few things like Social Security. Otherwise it is an alien and distant city with a House full of Republicans. It has waged a War on Drugs and a War in Iraq.
      Washington is over 1500 miles from Houston and even further away from Los Angeles and San Francisco.

      Censorship is rogue government.

      by scott5js on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 09:34:24 AM PDT

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      •  We are Washington, like it or not. (0+ / 0-)

        Liberals want the federal government to actually DO THINGS like protect the environment, protect the poor from the abuses of the rich, and so on, and like it or not, the federal government and Washington, DC are inextricably associated in the minds of Americans.  That is why I am sad when people on liberal web sites say things like "(Washington is) an alien and distant city."  You can criticize things government agencies do (and often there is reason to do so, of course) and still not say this.  I've made this argument many, many times here on Daily Kos, and I wish I didn't have to.    

        "Optimism is better than despair." --Jack Layton, the late Canadian MP, liberal, and Christian.

        by lungfish on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 06:52:47 PM PDT

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      •  Raising an argument (0+ / 0-)

        Probably I have overstated my case, but I was trying to raise an argument about the role of Washington versus that of state and local governments.
        I do think my own state of Texas is quite important. Do you not agree? Texas sends people like Louie Goehmert and Ted Cruz who play a big part in making Washington what it is. We Texas Democrats need to change Texas.
        I just got and read Dale Carpenter's book 'Flagrant Conduct' about the case Lawrence v Texas which struck down sodomy laws. The case originated in the Houston area. Section 21.06 (homosexual conduct) is still on the books although the Supreme Court has made it unenforceable. There was an effort in the recent Legislative session to repeal it.
        Section 21.06 has seen repeal bills in many sessions. There is a Texas dildo law that has not, although it was struck down a few years ago by a Circuit court and is not being litigated. Once I asked my own state representative to sponsor a bill to repeal it, but she was equivocal. Even if this law is now unenforced it represents an attitude that must be stamped out.
        OK, there are things I want the Federal government to do, such as Social Security, Medicare, and environmental control. As for criminal justice I want the Federal government to be a vigorous guardian of the Fourteenth Amendment, but with fewer criminal laws to enforce. I cannot be too enthusiastic when I see the Federal government prosecuting Michael Vick. On dailykos I have even broached having Dzokhar Tsarnayev prosecuted by Massachusetts instead of the Federal government. Hmmm ... I think Massachusetts does not have the death penalty.

        Censorship is rogue government.

        by scott5js on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 06:43:40 AM PDT

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