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  •  It's actually worse than that (6+ / 0-)

    Bernstein did follow up, Joan didn't include the rest of that interview - from fenway49 via BlueMassGroup:

    Bernstein: So, then would you not allow a bill of yours to be folded into other legislation to become law?

    Gomez: Of course I would. Of course I would.

    Of course he's want to use that "lawyerly explanation" if it was his own legislation! IOKIYAR, people!

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    by AnotherMassachusettsLiberal on Thu Jun 06, 2013 at 01:27:47 PM PDT

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    •  Sadly many on the right (4+ / 0-)

      (you know the "low information" voters) are repeating the line that Markey's  "done nothing"

      It is embarrassing that people like that inhabit my state.

      •  Who cares? (1+ / 0-)
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        They can say whatever they want. There are not enough of them here to win this election.

        "I am not for a return to that definition of Liberty under which for many years a free people were being gradually regimented into the service of the privileged few." Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1934

        by fenway49 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 at 02:35:54 PM PDT

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        •  I care (0+ / 0-)

          because these people vote .

          I am not hitting a panic button  & I realize that Markey's campaign is leaps ahead of Coakley's ( Coakley was a lackluster candidate)  but special election turnout is unpredictable.

          •  My point (2+ / 0-)
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            is that there will always be those people, and they will repeat whatever the line-du-jour coming from Fox News and Howie Carr is. In my city of Newton, I went into Dunkin' Donuts last year with an Elizabeth Warren sticker on my shirt after a canvassing shift. Two guys started doing fake Native American war whoops and told me Warren was working in court against asbestos workers and didn't have a proper law license.

            Maybe those guys voted. People on the doors sometimes told me they were voting for Scott Brown. But Warren won Newton 67-32 and won by 8 points statewide. The GOP always will get their 35-40 minimum baseline, even in Massachusetts. If we do our thing right, we'll beat them.

            "I am not for a return to that definition of Liberty under which for many years a free people were being gradually regimented into the service of the privileged few." Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1934

            by fenway49 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 06:15:23 AM PDT

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            •  I understand but it matters because they vote (1+ / 0-)
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              and  the special election is what brought us Brown.

              I understand how the election went and did my part by voting and volunteering but no matter their silly behavior or lack of information,many of these people vote.

              •  Sure (0+ / 0-)

                They always will vote and, with one exception, they lose anyway. I'm just saying we're not doomed to lose every special election because of Scott Brown. We all know what we have to do and enough of us are doing it that we're going to win.

                "I am not for a return to that definition of Liberty under which for many years a free people were being gradually regimented into the service of the privileged few." Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1934

                by fenway49 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 09:31:20 AM PDT

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                •  That's fine, we want the same result but (0+ / 0-)

                  I just resist the  casual dismissing of the other side  because it is exactly what the right does and as we saw once in MA and in across the nation in 2010, we can't take anything for granted.

    •  Bernstein updated (2+ / 0-)
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      Seems the Gomez people thought the transcript was off. Here's the revised follow-up answer:

      Bernstein: So, then would you not allow a bill of yours to be folded into other legislation to become law?

      Gomez: Of course I would. But the bottom line is that you need, he needs to speak for himself and talk about what he’s done in a leadership position, and what he can stand and sit there and say “this is my bill, right there.”

      Of course, thanks to Gomez's ineptitude Markey spent about 15% of the debate doing just that.

      In the meantime, Bernstein is reporting a new UMass Amherst poll that has Markey up 51-40, almost identical to the NEC poll from a couple of days ago. PPP has Gomez trailing 47-39. He's having trouble getting above 40, let alone 50.

      In the new poll 25% of 2010 Brown voters are not voting for Gomez, and Markey's up 82-16 among likely voters who did NOT vote in the 2010 special. No surprise; that election was very poor for Democratic turnout, especially in the cities.

      "I am not for a return to that definition of Liberty under which for many years a free people were being gradually regimented into the service of the privileged few." Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1934

      by fenway49 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 at 02:44:30 PM PDT

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