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  •  I would prob vote against this bill as written (1+ / 0-)
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    ManhattanMan

    Path to citizenship seems to be a mirage - it's too long a period and won't ever really happen.  Future GOP Administrations will make sure of that.

    The Dems' knowing election to treat the wedded spouses of same sex citizens (not just civil union partners but wedded spouses) as second class citizens is unacceptable to me.

    I do not think I could vote yes to this bill.

    •  Are we aplying that (6+ / 0-)

      standard of purity to all bills?
      The path of citizenship is going to be hard, and very costly, but at least it would give a legal status to many, many, many people. I doubt the GOP ill be governing in the next presidential elections, but I'm sure they will be not if they undo any reform. It would be  hard politically to do and just too high price to pay.

      The treatment of same sex citizens partners is now up to the courts and then to Senate and Congress to pass legislation.

      •  passing a bill also makes it easier to fix (6+ / 0-)

        versus starting from scratch every time.  

        The bigger concern is less Cruz's statements than amendments that would impose unrealistic conditions on people seeking the path to citizenship, like eligibility for ACA premium supports.  

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 10:49:12 AM PDT

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      •  if this were the 60s and the bill omitted blacks (0+ / 0-)

        If this were up for a vote in the 1960s and the bill expressly omitted blacks from participation in immigration reform in order to gain the votes of the Dixiecrat Senators from the segregationist Southern and Border states needed to overcome a filibuster and for final passage, I assume your position would be the same - better the bill with that horrid racial exclusion / omission because it at least gets us part way there.

        I disagree and think that would be wrong.

        I disagree with this bill and think it is wrong.

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