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  •  Why the dig at Clinton? (2+ / 0-)
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    high uintas, WisVoter

    He tried in the deposition to be non-cooperative with investigators who he made the mistake of neither respecting nor fearing, to his lasting regret. This was a miscalculation on his part, and his gamesmanship ended up biting him in the ass in a big way. But the parsing of "is" was the desperate act of a man attempting to cover up an affair and prevent damage to himself politically. It shouldn't live on as some kind of shorthand for political lying, especially when it was our conservative friends who tried to build an impeachment trial out of that one error of judgement.

    •  Clinton's parsing of "is" is well-known (11+ / 0-)

      and good example of parsing.

      As we get information, we need to remember to view the words used with parsing in mind. the NSA leaks have shown FB executive and Google similarly using words that they believed gave them wiggle room in their  "denials." We get similar wiggle room words from government officials.

      "It is in the shelter of each other that people live." Irish Proverb

      by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 11:08:56 AM PDT

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      •  ah, just like Soviet citizens used to do (0+ / 0-)

        with Pravda! Trying to parse the propaganda.

      •  The first thing that I thought when I saw the (4+ / 0-)
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        AoT, mrkvica, kurt, SouthernLiberalinMD

        no 'direct access' meme in the 9 companies responses to Snowden's revelations was:

        I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski...
        It was instant.

        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 12:51:38 PM PDT

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      •  I despise this misuse of the word "parsing". (3+ / 0-)
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        dinazina, AoT, kurt

        Political wonks keep misusing the verb "to parse".  It is NOT a term that implies being dishonest.  It's a term linguists use to describe diagramming the grammar pattern of a sentence, and its a thing that happens ALL the time, whether being dishonest or not.

        i.e. when you recognize that "I went to the grocery store in my car and left it there." that "I" is the subject, "went" is the verb, "to the store" is a descriptive prepositional clause about the verb, and so on.  It is also the practice of figuring out that the "it" that you "left there" is probably the car, not the grocery store, since  the car was the most recently mentioned noun when the pronoun "it" was used.

        "Parsing" is also the practice of figuring out that, for example, if you're speaking French the adjective refers to the previous noun, whereas in English it refers the the next noun about to come.

        This is not a term that means being dishonest.  It's what happens ALL the time in people's brains when they use a language.

        What happened is much like the bastardization of the word "hacker" to mean "someone who breaks into a computer" instead of "someone who uses obscure and indirect lateral thinking when writing computer software" that occurred when the public found out about a term they hadn't previously used.    Whatever the unrelated side-circumstances surrounding the word were during the first instance of the public finding out about the word that was already used frequently in the lingo of a subset of the population end up defining the word in the public's eye.  

        When the public's first introduction to the very benign and (formerly) quite useful bit of technical lingo "to parse" is when it was used to describe a person who was parsing in a weaselly and dishonest way rather than someone who was parsing normally, they end up thinking that the weaselly and dishonest usage they are seeing in their first ever exposure to the term is actually part of the definition of the term when it wasn't up to that point.

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