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  •  As long as we are casting aspersions on broad.... (5+ / 0-)
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    ...age groups.

    I'd say the Baby Boomers are the weakest, most pathetic scaredy cats in the history of the USA and their meek acquiescence to the construction of a completely secret and unaccountable government/private (fascist) total surveillance police state is not worthy of the ideals of this nation and makes them a bunch of traitors to the ideals of freedom that used to define our nation. How's that for a broad brush, DC Punditocracy?

    •  Not all of us (7+ / 0-)

      and that is a divide that has existed since our younger days.  Those like Brooks for whom the system works well fought to keep it.  Those like me (and a lot of boomer Kossacks)  who chose instead to fight for those left out haven't given up.  You might call Snowdon and Manning our heirs.

    •  Gee, thanks. (3+ / 0-)

      If you're not using that as a example of how bad Brooks' writing is, and you really think that stuff, I'd say you want to get out more.

      "Why reasonable people go stark raving mad when anything involving a Negro comes up, is something I don’t pretend to understand." ~ Atticus Finch, "To Kill a Mockingbird"

      by SottoVoce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:02:56 PM PDT

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    •  iburl - Tell you what: (2+ / 0-)
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      After you've marched through Washington in an enormous cloud of pepper spray while trying to dodge police billy clubs, come back and tell us how tough you are.
         Conversely, if anti-war and civil rights demonstrations aren't your bag, as we oldsters say, research the term LRRP and calculate how many boomers got to take these little strolls.

      •  I thought it was (1+ / 0-)
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        great snark.

        And we really don't need to play the "who is more protesty" game here.

        If the younger set jumped at these attacks on us like the boomers do then there'd be no end of flame wars here.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:28:24 PM PDT

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      •  With all due respect to you, I think iburl was (0+ / 0-)

        trying to take a shot at the echelon occupied by Boomers of Brooks' stripe. (Um, that would be the rear echelon, whence the self-explanatory acronym "REMF" :)

        The Boomers as a larger demographic fought against an unjust and immoral war and helped bring greatly increased freedoms to large swaths of the population (blacks, women, Latinos, LGBT and so on). Society owes their generation a great debt of gratitude, maybe not quite as great as that owed the 'Greatest Generation' but close to it, imho.

        Full disclosure: I was born in 1959 at the tail end of the Baby Boom, so I cannot claim membership in it. Instead, my generation gave us disco (and punk rock!).

    •  Boomers in a nutshell: (2+ / 0-)
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      I'm going to make the whole world perfect by next Thursday.

      What, me fail? That's unpossible!

      Therefore, if I can't change the world, the world is either perfect as it is, or it simply can't be changed. QED.

      Either way, I'm going to sell out as quickly and thoroughly as I can and make a buck!

      Oh, you want to try to change the world? Don't be stupid! If I can't, no one can. Seriously, 'cause I will stop you...


      If this bit of broad brush parody doesn't apply to you, good, it doesn't apply to you, so don't bother whining. There's a reason you guys voluntarily accepted the sobriquet "The ME generation."

      •  Oh, for Christ Fucking Sake! (0+ / 0-)

        Sorry, I was trying to work on the F-bomb thing.

        But for starters, some half-bright pop culture journalist made up the phrase "me generation," and "you guys" most definitely have your own cadre of half-bright pop culture journalists filling their audiences' heads with trivia.

        And imagine telling a group defined by any other characteristic than age "If this bit of broad brush parody doesn't apply to you, good, it doesn't apply to you, so don't bother whining."

        "Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous." -- Molly Ivins

        by dumpster on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:41:02 PM PDT

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        •  I keed, I keed (0+ / 0-)

          Hey, I was raised by lefty boomers, I'm allowed to poke fun. But thanks for demonstrating just how seriously you guys take yourselves. :P Yeah, I'm just jealous 'cause I missed the sixties...

          •  Not that we take ourselves seriously, just that we (0+ / 0-)

            react to insults sometimes. But no really, try that line when the context is, say, ethnicity or gender. You'd be surprised how many people don't have the sense of humor about themselves that you have about them.

            "Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous." -- Molly Ivins

            by dumpster on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 03:03:16 PM PDT

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