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  •  I dont see how this effects any of that (5+ / 0-)

    Every single group has said that yes, they do this but the media is making it sound like they have access to their servers. What they claim is that they have set up special servers or access to comply, but that the gov't only has access to what the courts allow.

    Personally, what the corporations say sounds a lot more plausible to me. If the Gov't really did have straight access to the entire server... that would really be shocking on SO many levels.

    This doesnt sound defensive to me. This sounds like a group that has been accused trying to defend itself. With that, nothing that I have seen released from Snowdon is any kind of smoking gun to contradict what the gov't and corporations are saying.

    With that, no matter what story proves to be true (gov't or media) it has nothing to do with people feelings to Snowdon.

    The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

    by gbaked on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:18:05 PM PDT

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    •  Okay...you said it better than I did. (1+ / 0-)
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      I think I'm suffering from scandal overload.

      Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

      by darthstar on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:24:37 PM PDT

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      •  Wow, you're tired of hearing too much (0+ / 0-)

        about scandals?

        That's a heroic reason not to care about a surveillance society! You can't be bothered to hear about it.

        Pathetic.

        •  I never said I didn't care about a surveillance (0+ / 0-)

          society.  Jesus fucking Christ, but you self appointed protectors of liberty sure jump from one extreme to another!  I merely think that this asshole Snowden and his asshole mouthpiece Greenwald shouldn't be celebrated as heroes.  I've known for years that our digital secrets aren't secret...for fuck's sake, I've worked in software security for more than a few years.

          I just prefer to be a bit more realistic about where we are and how long it's going to take to reverse the damage Bush did to our liberties (if it is even possible to reverse said damage - too many elected officials, Democratic and Republican, are too fearful of being labeled as 'unpatriotic' if they dare to speak out against any national security concern).  

          The bottom line is, there are plenty of things we CAN influence (health care, immigration reform, LGBT rights, environmental concerns like green energy) to buy into the abject paranoia about the government doing word counts on my emails.

          So take your righteous indignation at my fatigue with Obama Scandals (most pushed from the right, and Greenwald is a right-wing fucker, I don't care if he's gay...he's still an asshole) and kindly direct it somewhere else.

          Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

          by darthstar on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 07:16:01 PM PDT

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