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  •  yes (9+ / 0-)

    as i said, we're not as bad as china. yay us.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:48:03 PM PDT

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    •  Yet you still cite China as authority on liberty. (0+ / 0-)

      Care to explain why?

      Because the only explanation I can think of is, you don't care about the intentions or good faith of the speaker, as long as it's badmouthing the US's program.  

      And that was just the most egregious example of you picking up whatever cudgel you can find.   The self serving hems and haws of the other nations are presented with all the naivete and trust that nobody would manage for the US government.  Bah.

      "We're now in one of those periods when the reality of intense pressure on the middle class diverges from long-held assumptions of how the American bargain should work" --James Fallows

      by Inland on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 06:35:45 PM PDT

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      •  i know this is hard (2+ / 0-)
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        but i cite them as being able to call us on our hypocrisy. not a good position for us when china can tell us that we do it, too.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 07:53:21 PM PDT

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        •  No, you CHOOSE to ignore China's actual status (0+ / 0-)

          in order to give its charges legitimacy and make a false equivalence.

          "We're now in one of those periods when the reality of intense pressure on the middle class diverges from long-held assumptions of how the American bargain should work" --James Fallows

          by Inland on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 05:19:51 AM PDT

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