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  •  What's with Kirk voting no? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    jj32, Generic Democrat

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:40:06 PM PDT

    •  probaly to mke up for voting for gun bill (0+ / 0-)

      Kirk has to start voting right wing if he wants to even get nominated again. he has been voting somewhat moderate and  it's almost a sure thing he gets primaried which would just make regaining the seat easier for the democrats.

      •  he could always vote no later, (0+ / 0-)

        when there was something he could point to as objectionable.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:55:38 PM PDT

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      •  It was tragic that Ds put up such a lightweight (1+ / 0-)
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        Faito

        as Alexi Giannoulias, the (get this) Illinois Treasurer whose family bank defaulted during the election cycle, to oppose the sniveling, dishonest Kirk (falsified military record).

        Typical embarrassment for a state famous for imprisoned governors, a $100Billion unfunded pension liability, and the worst credit rating of all 50 states.

        We must have a better Democrat around here somewhere who is not named Madigan, Jackson, Daley, or Blagojevich.

        Honesty is not a policy. It's a character trait.

        by Says Who on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:12:05 PM PDT

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      •  He holds Obama's former seat (0+ / 0-)

        The last thing he wants to do is portray himself as anything else but moderate

        “The Republicans believe in the minimum wage — the more the minimum, the better.”-Harry S Truman

        by Generic Democrat on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 06:20:21 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, that's odd, imo (0+ / 0-)

      He said he would vote for final passage if Cornyn's border security amendment passes. But Dems consider that a poison pill.

      What's weird is that even Cornyn voted aye on advancing the bill.

    •  There's a misconception (0+ / 0-)

      that Kirk is moderate on most issues.  He is on gay rights and guns but overall, he's conservative on most things related to economics or foreign policy.  Collins, Murkowski, and even senators like Hoeven or Alexander are often voting to the left of him.  I actually would say that Kirk and Johnson in Wisconsin are the two Republican senators that are the most out of line with their constituents wishes.  They have no excuse in the states they represent.

      •  Then why's he going against the C of C? (0+ / 0-)

        Nobody suggests he's a tea party guy or fringe nativist, to my knowledge.

        Don't overlook Pat Toomey.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:13:36 PM PDT

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      •  I'd add Toomey (R-PA) (0+ / 0-)

        He just squeaked over the line in a Republican wave year, and seems determined to go out with a bang in 2016. Generally speaking, Pennsylvania doesn't particularly like Birchers - the most successful Republicans there were always moderates like Specter.

        "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

        by Australian2 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:58:13 PM PDT

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        •  I forgot about Toomey (0+ / 0-)

          He definitely is another one that needs to go because he doesn't represent the average Pennsylvanian.  Unfortunately, his background check thing may have blinded some Pennsylvanians to how crazy he can be.

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