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  •  Well, for starters, families will be able to apply (2+ / 0-)
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    to stay in this country legally so they won't be afraid of getting ripped apart in Deportation hearings, so even with your neighbor legal, he's probably got a number of acquaintances who aren't.  In addition, there will be a sharp reduction in things like Arizona's "Papers Please" laws where driving/working/existing while brown are almost automatic excuses for police in some areas to stop and harass Hispanics just because of racial profiling.  Not immediately, but within a few years, as more and more Latinos are granted citizenship, there will be more and more chance for his voice to be heard because he and his fellow Latinos will be a block of voters that even the Republicans can't sh*t on anymore if they want to win elections.

    That's just barely scratching the surface on why I think this bill will be a good deal for the country - not just your Latino neighbor.

    •  If my neighbor... (0+ / 0-)

      ...has family members who want to come here isn't there an expedited process for them? One that is better than the 13 years currently proposed?

      Also, the Arizona laws won't go away. We will still need to keep future illegal immigrants out, and there will still be no end of proposals (both smart ones and dumb ones) to do that.

      Lastly, my neighbor has a good job. Surely he understands that more immigrants will lower his wages?

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        If my neighbour...has family members who want to come here isn't there an expedited process for them? One that is better than the 13 years currently proposed?
        Short answer? No.

        "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

        by Australian2 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:04:01 PM PDT

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        •  So this bill doesn't even... (0+ / 0-)

          ...make things better for the people we most logically would want to help?

          Is there anything good about the bill at all?

          This supports my original rhetorical question: "Why would a Latino voter like this bill?"

          (BTW, excellent link. I had no idea the "legal" process was that horrible).

          •  That's the current system. (0+ / 0-)

            I'm not up to speed on the specifics of what the bill does - for that, I'm afraid that you'll have to ask someone else.

            "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

            by Australian2 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 04:23:08 PM PDT

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