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  •  When's the last time you went 3 months... (0+ / 0-)

    ...without making a telephone call?

    I suspect that I would just cancel my phone service if I didn't plan on using it for 3 months.

    Stop the NRA and the NSA
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    by dream weaver on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 01:37:05 AM PDT

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    •  Look. (0+ / 0-)

      If Verizon hands over phone records of calls that were made over a three month period, you don't even know that all those calls were made by Americans.

      How many of those calls were made by foreigners? Just because they were made in America doesn't mean they were made by Americans.

      How many of those calls were made by people to whom the phone numbers were assigned?

      How many of those calls were made by people other than those to whom the phone number was assigned?

      Suppose your significant other called the psychic hotline for hours at a time on your phone. It may look as if you're having an affair with Dionne Warwick, when you're not at all.

      This is why the collection of metadata, in and of itself, is not an invasion of privacy. Other forms of data have to corroborate a) your identity and b) the fact that you made the call. The government has to obtain a warrant in order to corroborate that data.

      •  About 90% of them in my household. (0+ / 0-)
        How many of those calls were made by foreigners?
        What's your point?

        Stop the NRA and the NSA
        Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

        by dream weaver on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 07:03:18 AM PDT

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