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  •  Im sorry (0+ / 0-)

    but this is in no way different than any other portion of the american justice system.  In civilian courts it is "the people of the State of __ vs John Criminal Doe."  In a military case the only difference is that it is US v Criminal.

    While I understand the desire to make things better for ALL victims of sex crimes, you are presenting this as some unique aspect of the UCMJ when it is not.  In fact, if anything the military does a BETTER job because the commander is responsible to the victim far more than the state is is the victim is a military member.  Not only that, military judges are, for the most part, FAR less tolerant of dragging the victim through the mud than their civilian peers.  

    Again it is not the job of the victim to bring up past bad acts.  You state as fact that those prior bad acts are not admissible but I know they are.  I have been part of a Courts Martial as a juror, as a witness and as a character reference and I gave testimony of past acts and heard testimony of past acts.

    What ever your involvement with a trial was, it is not typical.

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:23:15 PM PDT

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    •  Military justice is not Civilian justice (0+ / 0-)

      It IS that simple.

      And rape is rape. It IS that simple.

      Or are you attempting to suggest that out of 26,000 reported rapes/sexual assaults, the approximate amount of 8% (based on 2011 numbers) of perpetrators who actually saw prison time (none of whom were place on any sex offender registry) was a fluke, and all the rest did not see prison time because they were all borderline cases due to alcohol?


      Nod... right.

      Equal to civilian justice. Yes. Okay. Roger, and over and out.

      "One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is invisible to the eye." - The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

      by RoseWeaver on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:30:40 PM PDT

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      •  Red Herring (0+ / 0-)

        The 26,000 number comes from the anonymous reporting channel that actually PRECLUDES any kind of punishment.  Of the 3374 ACTUALLY reported cases, the vast majority went to courts martial and 100% had an Article 32 hearing (Grand Jury equivalent).

        Please dont confuse your numbers unless your intent was to confuse the nature of things and make a false argument.  

        You are right, there are differences in the military justice system.  Like the maximum punishment for rape being the death penalty.  The ability to threaten the accused with the death penalty has generated MANY guilty pleas that save both the government and VICTIM a trial.

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:48:34 PM PDT

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