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  •  Santorum is a blue collar guy (5+ / 0-)

    Out of pure schadenfreude, since the election I've gone back and watched GOP primary debates, and it's given me a newfound appreciation for Santorum. As much as any Republican can, he supports working class issues, and he made a point of differentiating himself from Romney in that regard. He also made the case, more than anyone else, for the role of government. In this area, he aptly fought off the nihilist Paul, who constantly pointed to Santorum's voting record as evidence of a nanny state guy, to which Santorum pointed out that it was easy to be a purist when you're only accountable to a few thousand crazy conservative Texans.

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think there's a kernel of truth in the narrative that the 'lamestream media' focused way too much on a tertiary issues and policies positions with Santorum, thus discrediting his entire platform.

    •  That's quite a hobby you've got there :-) (2+ / 0-)
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      Moravan, Observerinvancouver
      I've gone back and watched GOP primary debates
      I had a hard time watching them the first time around, certainly not without shouting rude things to the TV, but I'll bet there are several interesting moments in retrospect.

      "War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate." ~ Al Cleveland & Marvin Gaye (1970)

      by JBL55 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 08:57:32 AM PDT

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    •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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      Moravan

      His far right views on homosexuality (among other things) bothers me quite a bit but it's not fair to say he's crazy.  He's a smart man who has done things that made life better for others, regardless of political orientation.  Some of his points in the primaries were strong, esp pointing out the economic class system to GOP primary voters.

      Unfortunately, when a narrative sticks, it's hard to get rid of it. (That narrative stuff has hurt Dem candidates too - Gore and Kerry esp - so I don't think it's the media purposefully going after GOP candidates).

      •  Santorum (narrative) was especially sticky (2+ / 0-)
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        UnionMade, gunnarthor

        Obviously his far right views on some social and family issues are abhorrent. But my sense is he's enough of a pragmatist and believer in small-r republican virtues that his administration would stay out of that stuff. I could be wrong.

        Ok, I've reached my annual quota for Santorum-backing. Time to do something radically leftist to balance out all this bipartisan thinking.

        •  Dig deeper (if you can stand the Santorum). (1+ / 0-)
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          Moravan

          There's a reason Rick quit just before the PA primary. A great portion of his home state loathes him, personally. Santorum's personal hypocrisy, sense of entitlement, and selfishness (like living in VA while bleeding PA of cyber-schooling for his kids; ignoring jury summonses; underpaying local taxes) became more obvious over time, and left a bad taste in a lot of mouths.

          My 90-year-old father actually changed his PA voter reg to GOP in 2011, to be ready to cast a vote against Santorum in the 2012 primary. So did one of my sisters, and my niece.

          Of course, that's anecdotal evidence. But Santorum lost his re-election to the Senate by a huge margin--unprecedented, I think, for a multiple-term incumbent.

          •  Conceded (0+ / 0-)

            Perhaps I should have entitled my post as 'Santorum campaigned as a blue collar guy'

          •  All fair points but (0+ / 0-)

            his loss is overstated.  The GOP knew he couldn't win b/c of the giant blue wave so he had no funding whatsoever.  Easily the least $ ever for a multi-term incumbent.  And Casey's name is pretty strong in PA, so the Dems had their absolute best challenger.  His housing/school stuff was small stuff that was played up b/c of the massive money differential but it was effective.

            I lived in PA then and happily voted for Casey but Santorum did have some success.   And, as I noted below, I think there were ways in which he could have been a stronger candidate than Romney.

    •  And Hitler was an unemployed worker -- no kidding (1+ / 0-)
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      gffish

      read the biography:  In his Vienna days, the young Adolph was a homeless beggar and postcard painter from a lower middle class civil service family.   Until 1923 in Munich he was a jobless military veteran secretly in the employ of the Army's intelligence division.

       On his release from prison he began to schmooze rich and influential possible supporters -- doing so under the social  patronage of industrial aristocrats like steel magnate, Hermann Goering, .  Young Hitler was being promoted as the embodiment of the German Masses ... a patriotic pet proletarian ... who the Business/Industrial establishment types thought they could befriend, empower and control.

      Then Hitler began to believe his own press ... believe in his own Destiny.

      While some of his sponsors were hanged as war criminals ... others went on to be the architects  post-war German Economic Miracle and patrons of the Austrian (austerity) School of economic theory.

    •  As a person (3+ / 0-)
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      gffish, Moravan, Zack from the SFV

      who has (well, had) a uterus, I find Rick Santorum and his politics abhorrent.  He would condemn all women to forced pregnancy or the risk of death.  I'm old enough to remember those days and I don't want them back.

    •  Owners succeeding economically isn't family values (2+ / 0-)
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      gffish, Moravan

      I'll point again to my brother in WI and his ex-boss, who is a huge teabagger and who was a massive Romney supporter.  According to my brother, all she ever did was talk about how SHE was the job creator, she and she alone built her company, and her workers were dirt beneath her feet.

      She and her family were very rich, they succeeded economically.  But she refused to pay her workers decent wages (why my brother quit), so that they could support their families.  Her workers were not succeeding economically, so what of their family values?

      This sounds like the GOP is beginning to have "come to Jesus" moments.  They're not going to get elected only on the votes of CEOs and Wall Street hedge fund managers.  They need middle class workers to vote for them.  Which means the GOP needs to support workers who don't get up every morning plotting how to screw over their co-workers, who instead just want a days honest work, a paycheck and go home to play with their kids.

      Romney and the far-right dismissed all of those people as lazy moochers, which is a huge part of why they lost.

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