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  •  Goes to show when you loop the healthcare law (0+ / 0-)

    and everything that the President has done into "Goes to show Obama had no new ideas" your criticism is not primarily about NSA or ACA or any other policies of Obama's ending in the letter A or otherwise, it is just Obama who is the issue.

    Now you're jumping on the 'Obama harming Muslim rebels" bandwagon. How corrupt Obama is for thinking of doing that!" This will be, I know, the next topic of outrage, just like the BP oil spill, his first debate against Romney, this NSA story which essentially has been out since 2006, and so many other outrages to end outrages.

    It doesn't matter what Obama does, the real issue I think is he was elected President twice convincingly and as you are trying to rewrite his legacy by saying it just "goes to show" Obama "HAD" no new ideas. Quite telling.... This sounds like something you've been arguing before he entered office.

    By the way, since you've mention the healthcare law, and since I've often heard the anti-Obama faction in this community complain that the healthcare plan is a Republican plan.... I would love to know which  Republican would have passed this plan....  

    Because, you see, I know no republican would have passed a healthcare law which forbids insurance companies to deny healthcare due to a pre-existing condition, or pass a healthcare law which restricts insurance companies' profits, by forcing these companies to give their customers rebates unless they spend at least 80 percent of their premium dollars on medical expenses.

    If Obamacare is a Republican bill, I dare anyone to tell me which Republican would have passed such a bill. I need names.... I won't hold my breath.

    •  Don't you have an OFA meeting to attend? (1+ / 0-)
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      Laconic Lib

      I'm sure someone there takes you seriously.  

      In the interest of truth:

      Now you're jumping on the 'Obama harming Muslim rebels" bandwagon.
      That would be "arming" not "harming.  

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      Please update your reading skills.  

      •  How clever, let's pick out a spelling error to (0+ / 0-)

        show how smart I am.... You still haven't told me which Republican would pass the healthcare law.... And I don't think you can.... See, it is just rhetoric, nothing more. If you really want to show how much smarter you are than I am, don't just point out a spelling error, tell me which Republican would pass the Affordable Care Act....

        As I said, I won't hold my breath, because you'll have rejoinders after rejoinders, but nothing that goes to that issue....  

        •  No one I know who supports the ACA has ever told (2+ / 0-)
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          BroadwayBaby1, shaharazade

          me or my spouse how it will help my household. Those of us in the 17K to 41K annually will be screwed. About the only good it does is force us to pay a fine once we refuse to comply with all of it.

          So if you are not fond of the ACA, then the only good thing you can say about Obama is that he isn't requiring that we cut our noses off our face, I guess.
          At least not yet.

          Offer your heart some Joy every day of your life, and spread it along to others.

          by Truedelphi on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 02:35:52 PM PDT

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    •  Bob Dole (2+ / 0-)
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      rlochow, shaharazade

      the REPUBLICAN nominee for the presidency, is your answer.  Obamacare is quite similar to what Dole proposed in response to Hillarycare.

      I offer you, from dolekemp96.org the exact description of what you were looking for

      As President, he will:

          Seek ways to make health care more accessible and affordable for all Americans.
          Ensure that individuals who change jobs do not lose their coverage or face pre-existing condition limitations.
          Give self-employed individuals the same tax deductions that large corporations have to buy health insurance.
          Make Medical Savings Accounts a real option available to all Americans.
          Support efforts to make community and home based care more readily available.

      I guess you could change your position, but I won't hold my breath.

      Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

      by Mindful Nature on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 09:28:14 AM PDT

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