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  •  You confront and be aggressive (11+ / 0-)

      The DPW finally took the first steps with a billboard in Walkershaw County showing the jobs failure, but I'd go much further. I'd throw ads up that take on the AM propagandists head-on, with titles like "Sykes is lying to you." "Belling relies on hate, not fact." "McKenna has no talent, so why would you follow her?" "Bader never gets it right."

      This isn't intended to sway the true believer losers who listen to this garbage every day, but it should get through to the causal bystanders, and it would sure fire up people like us. In fact, I'd argue that we shouldn't waste our time with the 30%ers that will lie to themselves and continue to beLIEve Walker's policies are working, and instead tell the truth to everyone else.

      We often aren't a confrontational type, and would rather be kind and friendly. But we have to speak up and put the failures and the corruption in people's faces - the media won't do it for us. And doing it through ads and on-the-ground events is the way to do it. Mike Tate and company at the DPW need to SPEND SOME DAMN MONEY NOW, because it'll get the media talking about the issue, and because it'll plant the seed in the head of casual voters who don't pay day-to-day attention to these things, Those are the voters who will vote Dem if they're aware of things, and if they feel a need to vote.

      And if the casual voters decide they need to go to the polls in 2014, it means the Dems will win in Wisconsin.  

    •  Great comment and thanks. (6+ / 0-)

      Regarding "Walkershaw" County----snort!  Good one!

      About your entire last paragraph and final sentence:  could not agree with you more!  After something Markos wrote in a comment last week having to do with voters who just aren't paying attention to politics when it comes time for elections, I am more than ever convinced that these are the people we HAVE to make see what is the truth about the failure of the Walker regime and I agree that they WILL vote Dem IF they're aware of things.  Now I just wish Tate would provide some leadership AND some money.  I'm not a supporter of his but I'd happily become one if/when he shows some actions that will help us win the next election.

      "A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." - from the prophet Jeremiah

      by 3goldens on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 08:25:30 PM PDT

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      •  This is why you start NOW (9+ / 0-)

          You can't wait till the Fall of 2014 to tell people of Walker's failures. You start actively sending the message NOW, not only because it's true, but because it plants the seed into the minds of the casual voter. And it'll especially be useful if done in the tone of "why are these talk show hosts and Walker lying to us and cheating? We're better than this."

        Once the seed is planted, they'll start to look into the reality, instead of having reality told to them by the RW propaganda and money machine, and they'll look around their community and know by early 2014 that "it's not working."

           Walker's really a lot like where Bush was in 2005- the people paying attention know he's screwing things up, but the casual person still wants to hold onto the belief that the guys at the top know what they're doing. It took Katrina and Terri Schiavo to make those people wake up and say "Oh, that's what you guys on the left meant,"
         and the drop in "right track" numbers among Indys tells me that erosion is starting

          The you see this week's trans-vag meltdown by Ellis and the Senate GOPs is the type of thing that often can be marked as a tipping point. The casual voters didn't vote GOP to have trans-vag ultrasounds and statewide vouchers. Time to send up the billboards, get some ads out, and keep it in their minds.

        •  Billboards need to be state wide; is there another (4+ / 0-)

          Group already legally established other than the Wisconsin Democratic Party who can coordinate a statewide campaign?  I am sure there are others like me who would contribute to sponsor one in our local communities as part of a statewide campaign.

          Robber Baron "ReTHUGisms": John D. Rockefeller -"The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets"; Jay Gould -"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

          by ranton on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 10:10:06 PM PDT

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          •  agree (3+ / 0-)
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            grassroots fundraising can easily come up with the $ for statewide billboards. But who can we trust to keep on message and spend wisely? Maybe Russ Feingold's Progressives United?

            Pick *ONE* message and hammer it home with monotonous repetition. Mix up the graphs and the wording, but take a page out of the GOP playbook and STAY ON MESSAGE.

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            by WI Deadhead on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 06:16:31 AM PDT

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            •  Message starts simple and big (2+ / 0-)
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                And I think what it should be is "It's failing, and you're being lied to," with the names of Sykes, Walker, Belling and such rotating in various parts of the state. Because not only is that true, it plants the seed into the minds of the casual voter who knows things are going wrong, but doesn't have the time or interest to look into these things.

                  And at the same time, it puts pressure on our media to put in an effort to DO THEIR JOBS and try to give people the truth, instead of two sides of spin. The second step then becomes the specifics (horrible jobs and wage numbers, exploding deficit starting in 2015, idiotic social issue pandering to the anti-choice crowd that the vast majority disagrees with). But I think you start now, and make the WisGOPs answer for their failing record NOW, instead of giving them a year to come up with some BS propaganda campaign that can deflect from it in Summer and Fall 2014.

              •  So HOW do we get this done? It has to be via a (0+ / 0-)

                Legal entity where contributors names do not have to be revealed as contributors to the billboard fund specifically.  If and when billboards hit local communities, it will be the talk of local towns.  The ReTHUG leaning media WILL try to expose those responsible. Too many public employees, working people, and local business owners, who hate what has happened to their state, are too vulnerable to contribute if their names will be exposed. If Karl "Rover" can hide his wealthy contributors from public accountability, it is even more important for vulnerable  working class people.

                Robber Baron "ReTHUGisms": John D. Rockefeller -"The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets"; Jay Gould -"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

                by ranton on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 07:00:17 PM PDT

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