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  •  No gated communities in Oswego or Plattsburgh (5+ / 0-)

    The idea has no legs and really is not going to have any this year.  The nano college will spin off of Albany State  also known as University at Albany and this is probably the only possibility for this year and there are already millions of dollars of tax benefits going to the corporations setting up shop there.  I am concerned that the State University system is going to downsize and then there will be a much smaller system with limited enrollment.

    •  Thank you - what corporations are involved? (3+ / 0-)
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      joedemocrat, caul, helfenburg

      And how is giving them tax benefits tied into spinning off part of Albany State?  

      I have connections in SUNY and haven't heard of significant downsizing plans.  But that doesn't mean they are not in the pipeline.  Do you know any more about it?

    •  It's already in Albany. n/t (4+ / 0-)
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      joedemocrat, caul, helfenburg, deep info

      The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

      by nupstateny on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 06:36:37 PM PDT

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      •  Expanded even (4+ / 0-)
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        joedemocrat, PapaChach, Ohkwai, deep info

        They even moved the road north of the new building as part of the construction. With the construction of a new intersection as well, I do have to say traffic flows a lot better through there than it used to. Washington/Fuller used to be absolutely terrible, now with the flyover/roundabout construction it's pretty nice.

    •  SUNY already being destroyed piecemeal. (4+ / 0-)

      Near me, SUNY-Geneseo is being relentlessly hollowed-out by repeated waves of State budget cuts. It had a world-class speech pathology department that was widely respected and attracted students nationwide. But endless budget cuts in Albany left the school so pressed for funds that they closed the entire department.

      Lather, rinse, repeat...give Cuomo another few years, and the entire SUNY system will be a worthless on-line diploma mill.

      •  Other parts are expanding, though (2+ / 0-)
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        joedemocrat, PapaChach

        But it grieves me greatly to hear about cuts gutting good programs in SUNY.  

        I'll do some research and try to get a sense of the overall picture.

        If it's true that it's contracting dramatically, that certainly fits the nationwide pattern.  In a time of need, reduce opportunity, accentuate the flow of money from the bottom to the top...rendering regular people more desperate and dependent on service-sector jobs to glean a few crumbs from the overlords.  

        The more vulnerable and precarious the position of the middle class, the easier it is to force them to identify with the desires of the 1%, even as the ground erodes under their feet...


        •  It's not just program cuts; (6+ / 0-)

          SUNY tuitions have risen precipitously over the past decade, matched by cuts in scholarship aid and Pell grants. The result has been the obscene rise in average student indebtedness.

          And it's actually worse than it looks. SUNY has been touting its improving academic competitiveness, citing the higher average SAT scores of entering freshmen. But that is an artifact of exploding college costs driving even affluent students toward the State schools rather than any actual academic improvement. To the contrary, many academic programs are being hollowed out.

          •  Great points (3+ / 0-)

            Yep, I'm aware of all those global pressures, and indignant at the squeeze the political elite is performing.

            Student debt and restricting "real" college to the elite few work quite nicely as a one-two punch.  They force young people into neo-liberal beliefs and practices while offering a stark choice:

            Do all you can to join the 1% or spend your whole life scrabbling over the scraps in desperation with everyone else.

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