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  •  I have a simple solution. (12+ / 0-)

    Universal single-payer health care.

    Or, since that isn't "realistic" for some reason, reverse the penalties. Make it so having part-time people without offering insurance costs more in fines than full-timers.

    The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. - Albert Einstein.

    by Cvstos on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 06:06:08 PM PDT

    •  It is unrealistic because (2+ / 0-)

      Then all the preventable ailments from corporate pollution would all be there for the world to see.

      There is good reason why single payer was off the table. It would cut into profits.

    •  Single payer (1+ / 0-)
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      it gets blocked because it would mean massive taxes. (like we are not paying now for other peoples insurance and health care with our taxes).

      It would be something like a 7% payroll tax and a 6% income tax.  On top of current taxes.

      That is what the average person sees.  They don't see they would be paying less by not having to pay co-pays, deductibles, monthly premiums, etc.  Those are not 'taxes', and only the premium is seen in the pay stub.  But make FICA/Medicare double and they would freak.  that is the biggest wall to Single Payer.  (next biggest is the "you will wait for months to see a doc." stuff).

      In the EMS world you don't see a lot of support for single payer, mostly because we get to see first hand how Medicaid is abused.  Which makes us question what it would be like if "everyone" had Medicaid.  (http://youtu.be/... and http://www.youtube.com/... and the classic http://youtu.be/... )

      Stupid question hour starts now and ends in five minutes.

      by DrillSgtK on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 06:45:58 PM PDT

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      •  We Also Pay for Others' Care When We Buy Our Own (0+ / 0-)

        treatments.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:09:05 PM PDT

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      •  Their FICA/Medicare (1+ / 0-)
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        would not double with an efficient, government run system.

        Right now the US government spends of 5% of it's GDP on health care to cover a small portion of the US citizens.
        http://www.cbo.gov/...

        Japan spends a total of 8.1% of GDP to cover 100% of its citizens.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Cutting the military to a reasonable size would provide the money to cover everyone.

        We won't do it only because the MIC and the HCIC are both too powerful.

        Republican tax policies have led to financial conditions which have caused Republicans to demand cuts to programs they have always opposed.

        by AppleP on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 04:26:21 AM PDT

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      •  They tried to do Medicaid on the cheap (0+ / 0-)

        by underpaying primary care doctors and they have found out about the need for proper primary care doctor payment (after a mere 35 years).

    •  If the ACA has problems when implemented (0+ / 0-)

      I don't know that the public is going to trust Democrats to do something else.  After all, the ACA is was a partisan Democratic bill.  If the implementation goes badly, what are Democrats going to say -- we got it wrong last time, but trust us -- we'll get it right this time?

      Ironically, I think Democrats' best chance for further reform of the health care system is if the implementation of the ACA goes really well -- if the Democrats can say, 'we made things better with the ACA, so you can trust us to make further changes."  

      •  It Was the Heritage Foundation's Plan, Basically (1+ / 0-)
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        Nixon's plan.

        Not that Democrats would make any attempt to point that out.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:09:42 PM PDT

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        •  The public doesn't view it that way at all. (1+ / 0-)
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          if you look at the way the Congress voted, this was a Democratic bill.  Entirely.  

          If the Democrats thought that by taking some ideas from Nixon, they could make it bipartisan in the minds of the public, they were just wrong.  That would have been just a huge miscalculation.  The Democrats own the ACA, completely, because it was passed almost completely without any Republican support in the Congress.

          Part of governing is understanding those things.  When only Democrats vote for it, Democrats own it.  They have an interest in making sure the implementation goes smoothly.  If it does not, they can't say, well, even though no Republicans voted for it, the ACA was really a Republican bill, so give Democrats another chance to try again to fix the healthcare system.  

          •  Not necessarily. (0+ / 0-)

            If only the public had such great memory, Republicans would never be elected again after Bush's disastrous Iraq War and presiding over a global financial meltdown that led to a near depression.  Yet Republicans continue to be a threat every election year.

            If this law ends up being repealed and health costs continue to rise steeply as projected, sooner or later it will become unsustainable and unaffordable for the majority of people.  At that point, people will want something to be done about it, no matter which party does it.

            •  The federal government (0+ / 0-)

              run under Obama's appointed officials is trying to recreate boom level housing prices.

              And here in Florida they are succeeding. High-level houses are more expensive than during the Bush-era greed orgy and affordable housing is becoming a rare thing.

              •  I don't think there (0+ / 0-)

                will be a housing bubble this time because the banks are careful with their underwriting this time.  Sure, interest rates have been very low, but the underwriting has still been tight overall.  

      •  The price we pay for letting Lieberman and the (2+ / 0-)
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        Repubs crap all over the legislation before finally approving it.

        Not that I was thrilled with mandated private insurance in the first place, but every opportunity was taken to make it even worse than it already was, thanks to the filibuster threat.

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