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  •  As I have said several times already there is (2+ / 0-)
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    jamess, VelvetElvis

    nothing new here.

    NSA was collecting and recording, translating and filtering international phone calls, radio & TV broadcasts etc, in the 60's.  That is what NSA does.  

    They were not looking for domestic terrorists or 9/11 guys getting pilot training in this country to attack this country, in the 60's.
    But they are now.  From their point of view, if they had essentially all the money they wanted, and a compliant government, and access to the utmost in current high-tech technology and equipment, how would they do the data collection?

    That is not to say I support that.  I don't but NSA is doing what, from their point of view, with essentially no public oversight, is what they need to do.

    If we what it stopped, we really only have access through Congress and the WH, who are the compliant government.

    So we are going to have to do some serious butt kicking to get these over paid Congress Critter politicians to do anything to protect us form THEIR overreach.  They created this mutant and only they can abort it.

    Please consider donating to the ACLU who are already bringing suit.

    •  If you have said it several times then you have (2+ / 0-)
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      jamess, deep info

      only compounded how silly you look.  

      NSA was collecting and recording, translating and filtering international phone calls, radio & TV broadcasts etc, in the 60's.  That is what NSA does.  
      Do you think the majority at Dkos are unaware of surveillance state issues?

      Perhaps you should dig in a little deeper to see what all the huff is about?

      WTSP 10 News

      3 NSA veterans speak out on whistle-blower: We told you so

      In a roundtable discussion, a trio of former National Security Agency whistle-blowers tell USA TODAY that Edward Snowden succeeded where they failed.
      nsa group shot

      (Photo: H. Darr Beiser, USA TODAY)
      Story Highlights

          Edward Snowden, 29, an NSA contractor, released a trove of classified information
          He has been hiding in Hong Kong since the secret government spy program was detailed
          3 NSA officials -- also whistle-blowers -- tell USA TODAY Snowden's claims vindicate them

      When a National Security Agency contractor revealed top-secret details this month on the government's collection of Americans' phone and Internet records, one select group of intelligence veterans breathed a sigh of relief.

      Thomas Drake, William Binney and J. Kirk Wiebe belong to a select fraternity: the NSA officials who paved the way.

      For years, the three whistle-blowers had told anyone who would listen that the NSA collects huge swaths of communications data from U.S. citizens. They had spent decades in the top ranks of the agency, designing and managing the very data-collection systems they say have been turned against Americans. When they became convinced that fundamental constitutional rights were being violated, they complained first to their superiors, then to federal investigators, congressional oversight committees and, finally, to the news media.

      To the intelligence community, the trio are villains who compromised what the government classifies as some of its most secret, crucial and successful initiatives. They have been investigated as criminals and forced to give up careers, reputations and friendships built over a lifetime.

      Today, they feel vindicated.

      But sweet, its not news to you.  Thanks for sharing.

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      by divineorder on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 09:36:41 PM PDT

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