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  •  The whole point is that we all are (3+ / 0-)
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    When the government is grabbing all records of all Verizon customers then every Verizon customer is being treated like a suspect.

    Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

    by Dogs are fuzzy on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 04:41:33 PM PDT

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    •  That's not true. (0+ / 0-)

      If that were true, then lists of car insurance ids, passport ids or drivers license numbers maintained by the government would be unconstitutional. That's ridiculous.

      A phone number, in and of itself, can't be used to identify anyone. If the government seeks to identify a person given a phone number, they must obtain a warrant.

      When you sign up for wireless phone service, you sign a contract stipulating that your phone records can be provided to law enforcement. Why do people consent to that and then scream that the NSA has their data?

      •  It's not just phone numbers. It's every call. (1+ / 0-)
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        Who you called and how long.  Who called you and for how long.

        And I don't consent to those "we may give everything to law enforcement without warrants" contracts, I only sign the ones which say "in response to a proper warrant".

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