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  •  My best friend is from Raleigh. His parents (9+ / 0-)

    grew up in Morehead City (where my friend and I meet nearly every year for a week of sailing, swimming off the boat, and creative galley cooking). His mother has worked for the North Carolina Democratic Party and also for the state. I have spent a lot of time in North Carolina over the years and it's a state that I have really fallen in love with. The quotes you give above--that's not typical of the North Carolinians that I have come to know and love.

    Last time I was in Raleigh, my friend and I found ourselves in a large shopping centre, the parking lot of which was full of electric vehicle recharging stations. Even Boston and Cambridge have not gone that far towards making their cities accessible to EVs. "What a great place!" I always think when I visit Raleigh.

    This friend of mine, Andrew, got his D. Mus. down in SC. I visited him there several times, and I really saw the difference. Andrew makes the distinction that SC is part of what he calls "the South" (by which he means the Deep South), something I've never heard him say about North Carolina. I don't know if this is typical, but he and his friends and family seem to take an awful lot of pride in not being part of "that" South. I can see why, because up until recently, NC seemed to be a fairly sane place. The kind of legislation that has been taking place in NC is really appalling. His mother, the hard core Democrat (and liberal one at that) is totally livid. What's going on down there? Why are North Carolinians standing for this?

    It's good to see the protests on Mondays. It's good to see North Carolinians getting angry. This legislative agenda--and we've seen this in Maine, too, though much of the ALEC/Koch agenda has been defeated here even by the previous GOP dominated lege--this agenda is unbecoming to a state which is part of the Original Thirteen.

    There seems to be what another NC friend of mine called "the Race to the South: let's see who can become Alabama first, Virginia or North Carolina". It's really sad to see what is happening in both of those states. To my mind, backpedaling on trying to make the death penalty fairly applied if it's going to be at all is a terrible mistake. It's been pretty much proven that there is a racial disparity between who gets life and who gets fried. To deny this serves no purpose other than the advancement of racism, a digging in to a system which is already unjust, and satisfying the lizard brain urge of the human being to mete out retribution and, apparently, make sport of it in the process (at least in that one commenter's view).

    I was down in Raleigh the week that the vote was taken on the marriage equality issue. Here's what I encountered on Sunday at the Church of the Good Shepherd, just down the block from the State Capitol:

    These are the North Carolinians I know: thoughtful, moderate, accepting, embracing progress. I hope together you progressive North Carolinians can put up a hell of a fight against the toxic legislative agenda. Keep us informed: many of us love NC, have ties to the state, and want to see it flourish and see real justice flourish, not some dystopian Koch Brothers future.

    I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

    by commonmass on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 05:15:37 AM PDT

    •  Raleigh, ironically, seems to be a bit more sane (4+ / 0-)
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      and progressive than other parts of NC.  I say ironically, because of course, that's where all the nasty legislation is taking place.  Raleigh is also at the center of the Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill triangle that includes the Research Triangle.  With three major universities and a major R&D facility, this would naturally be a more progressive area.

      I live in the Charlotte metro area, and am shocked by the attitudes around me.  Is it because Charlotte is a major part of the banking industry?  Surprisingly, there are a lot of  folks who have settled here from New York, New Jersey, and Florida.  It is more diverse and yet more regressive and conservative than Raleigh.

      The Episcopal Church has always inclusive; a place of welcome and support, no matter what your race, color, or faith.  After growing up in a southern Baptist church, I moved to the Episcopal church in my early 20's.

      "We are made of so much more than bone or flesh. Grace, humor, compassion; these are our swords. Continue to fight, to heal, and to inspire all to do and be better than the day before." --VV

      by VeloVixen on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 07:04:52 AM PDT

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      •  Is there a correlation between being educated (4+ / 0-)

        and if not liberal, at least not being a racist reactionary? Would we see a correlation between attempting to dismantle our public education system and reactionary state legislatures to further their agenda into the next generation?
        Fortunately, I can't see the Republicans taking the White House anytime soon - maybe not even the Senate, due to demographics. The shame of the Democratic Party was/is the oversight of fighting at the state legislature level. It has clearly cost Democrats a majority in the House and subjected millions to racism and corporatist classism in many states that were formerly more "liberal" (not tea-party controlled).

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 07:27:23 AM PDT

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