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  •  Sorry, but he's just not that funny or insightful (0+ / 0-)

    He's got a shtick, but it does nothing for me. Saying the name of Che Guevara doesn't make you a radial challenging the establishment -- not when you're getting filthy rich doing shows in Abu Dhabi.

    And, there's nothing soft-spoken about Russell Brand -- that was what the Morning Joe folk were laughing about.

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    by FischFry on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 07:32:36 PM PDT

    •  Whoosh (13+ / 0-)

      Saying "Che Guevara" had nearly nothing to do with the entire segment. Mocking the entire staff of Morning Joe on their show for the entire segment, while pointing out that they lie to the masses and manipulate them, are so hateful that they're rude even after repeated warnings to their invited guest... that's a radical challenging the establishment.

      Getting rich while telling important truths rarely told is a triumph, not a shame or any kind of hypocrisy.

      And who said he's "soft spoken"? Nobody but you, to deny it.

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      by DocGonzo on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 08:54:27 PM PDT

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      •  Also his point about "Che Guevara" (14+ / 0-)

        was more wrt the posthumous exploitation of martyr figures than any sort of "radical name dropping" or whatever.

      •  Two points (1+ / 0-)
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        ON the soft-spoken bit -- you asked "who said he's 'soft-spoke" and said nobody but me. Perhaps you should have read the diary, to which I was responding.  This is what the diarist wrote:

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        let me know if this is what Brand normally does or was it just something in the fact that they met their match in the form of a soft spoken Brit???"
        Second -- there's plenty hypocritical about getting rich while "tellng important truths rarely told." He also mentioned Gandhi, who was way more famous and actually told truths rarely told...and did not accumulate riches. Nothing Brand says is a "truth rarely told." The fact that you might think so means you're buying into his narcissistic self-promoting image. There's little penetrating insight, and nothing there that isn't said much more cogently by countless others who aren't getting as rich, famous or getting laid as much as Brand, which is probably a bigger motivation for him than the money. It's his world and you're just feeding his narcissism.

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        by FischFry on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 05:47:29 AM PDT

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        •  One Point (0+ / 0-)

          OK, soft spoken he was called, but he's not.

          But the non-insignificant point here is that there is nothing hypocritical about getting rich while telling important truths rarely told. Just because some people don't get rich while doing it doesn't mean that doing so is hypocritical. If what he tells is "getting rich is bad" then maybe, but he isn't.

          Important truths rarely told don't have to be "penetrating insight". They can be said much more cogently by others - but they're still rarely told. On TV especially, like in the story we're discussing - saying these media people are liars who are terrible at their jobs, rude, "casually objectifying", etc, to their faces, on broadcast. But even in the broader society, though it's told more, it's still rare among the vast consumption of this swill, the hundreds of millions of people even just in the USA who passively accept and respect these media morons.

          Getting rich, famous and laid doesn't make him hypocritical, since he doesn't say anything against those activities. In fact he obviously encourages getting laid, and embraces the famous. His motivation isn't hypocritical, either, whatever that would mean.

          I don't think you know what "hypocritical" means. Nor narcissist, exactly. He's self indulgent, but his steady message is compassion, loving one another, empathy, tolerance. Those are not narcissistic.

          I think you're just jealous of a star. A star who's earning his fame, his wealth and his sex life by entertaining while telling important truths rarely told. Your lack of perspective and accuracy in assessing him says more about you than it does about him.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 06:37:52 PM PDT

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    •  Opinions do differ and my opinion is that you (1+ / 0-)
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      haven't seen much of him or weren't paying attention if you think he is not insightful.

      Reaganomics noun pl: belief that government is bad, that it can increase revenue by decreasing revenue, and unregulated capitalism can provide unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources.

      by FrY10cK on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 05:13:03 AM PDT

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