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  •  I'm not against civil disobedience (8+ / 0-)

    But those who engage in it know they are flouting the law and they accept the consequences for it.

    Resisting Shell is great, but why would anyone be surprised that blocking their vessels will lead to arrests?

    •  This isn't about leading to arrests (10+ / 0-)

      The protest is already illegal and they are already risking arrest. I don't see how making it more illegal is a good thing. This ruling could totally be used to restrain civil disobedience prior to it being used. Something similar was used against people blockading Keystone XL, although in that case the organization involved was sued for damages and then backed off out of necessity after making a deal. I don't know that this diary really explains the problem very well.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 10:21:51 AM PDT

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      •  I get the Minority Report Pre-Crime Overtones (7+ / 0-)

        Getting a pre-emptive restraining order against illegal acts is somewhat frightening.  And I see that there is concern that it could spill over soon into restraining orders against arguably legal acts.

        I guess I'm more alarmed by abuses like the caged "free speech zones" at the political conventions of the past, the non-disclosure agreements virtually all companies force employees to sign, the corporatization of the media, the resounding media silence when the 2000 election was stolen and the farcical Iraq WMD claims were so shamefully staged. . .

        It's a long list.  But you are so right that we are not a culture that engages in robust free speech that (a) describes reality and (b) submits reality to the scrutiny of basic critical reason.

        We're awash in oligarchic fluff jobs and silly info-tainment.  It ain't pretty.

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