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  •  We are NOT setting anyone up to fail when (1+ / 0-)
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    They buy a firearm. They are making that choice.
    I as one taxpayer already pay to subsidize stuff I don't like like the MIC. I'm not going to support my tax dollars be used to train adults in that use. If they want to learn & get paid to learn, they can join the armed forces or become a mercenary.

    We don't want to pay for k-12 school or prisons or the government we deserve because too many of us hate each other so much.

    We pay for all of this gun violence with increased usage of emergency services, police, trauma centers.

    That has a resounding NO from me.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 04:34:49 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, we do pay a high price for our (1+ / 0-)
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      failure to reduce the harms of gun violence.

      My comment wasn't clear. I'm coming from a harm reduction perspective similar to those places that provide needle exchange. And similar to the logic that originally prevailed when we as a civil society decided to intervene to reduce the HIV infection. Yes, providing free testing and means tested treatment was/is expensive, but it was/is a lot less expensive than simply leaving people living in high risk households to fend for themselves.

      My potential willingness to subsidize it some from practical considerations. I don't think the 2A includes any right to create a menace, but if SCOTUS ruled that requiring competency and training in the law did violate the 2A, then I'd be willing to invest some money in harm reduction.

      I'm sorry comment wasn't clear. The people I see us setting up for failure are those who get shot by a gun in the home of a negligent gun owner. And it's my opinion that some negligent gun owners wouldn't manage to complete the training, and then LEOs have a mechanism to remove guns from that home, where the gun owner lacks the attention span to own/store/use a gun without creating a menace.

      We shouldn't have to wait for someone to get shot.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 07:59:38 AM PDT

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