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  •  I'll have to research it (1+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster

    honestly I haven't studied history since high school but I know most of the founding fathers from the North like Adams and Franklin were hardly rich and they were more concerned about Britain overstepping their bounds when it came to civil rights vs money.

    The Taxes may have been the thing that galvanized people but it wasn't the only thing that was the issue.

    •  read the history (3+ / 0-)

      start with a People's History of The United States.

      I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

      by jbou on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 12:08:36 AM PDT

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    •  Yes you ought to study (5+ / 0-)

      Ben Franklin was a publisher and quite well off, John Adams was a prominent lawyer, for the time they were wealthy. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were all leaders of their time, most well off, all comfortable.

      The revolution was about lack of representation and money (taxes). I don't think that giving away the Revolutionaries' secrets would have been an endeared Mr. Snowden with the founders.

      Ben Franklin was the Continental Congress' spymaster. There is a reason he was the first Postmaster General, and it isn't because he looks good on a stamp. What Mr. Snowden has done would be antithetical to him.

    •  Some would argue if British rule at that (2+ / 0-)
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      nickrud, Yasuragi

      time should even be classified as tyranny. A lot of people who've actually lived under tyranny might make that point.

      But what the new government did to the Native Americans? That was definitely tyranny.

      We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

      by PowWowPollock on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 05:16:36 AM PDT

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