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  •  Well stated (11+ / 0-)

    The party is its followers, not its leaders.  The reason corporatists hogging all the power positions is deeply damaging to the party is that their actions threaten to lose many followers who disapprove of those actions.  This, by definition, hurts the party by shrinking it.  

    Obama has shown little or no interest in party-building since he was first elected.  His campaign apparatus has been oriented toward his personal use, and did piss-all for the party in 2010.  We saw how that went down.  Leaders and those choosing to follow them can blame others for drifting away when they don't feel heard or represented.  But the fault lies with them, not with those walking away.  If a party can't attract a majority of voters, it fails in its most basic task.  The leaders have to take the fall for that.

    We have always been at war with al Qaeda.

    by Dallasdoc on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 10:02:16 AM PDT

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    •  Absolutely. Every good company realizes that (7+ / 0-)

      signs of poor leadership is a sudden exodus of employees from the company.

      •  I'll be interested to see (4+ / 0-)
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        registration numbers overall as we approach 2016.

        IMO, I've thought for awhile now that all of this shit is by design--this "dividing the left". We're more easily divided than the right anyway, because we are so much more diverse to begin with.

        But we couldn't have had a Lefty Tea Party. It would have actually been popular. It still frosts me to this day how that corporate astroturf bullshit cheapened something as real as the Tea Party Revolt.

        "The “Left” is NOT divided on the need to oppose austerity and the Great Betrayal. The Third Way is not left or center or even right. It is Wall Street on the Potomac."--Bill Black

        by lunachickie on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 10:50:39 AM PDT

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        •  IOW a Republican org became... a Republican org. (1+ / 0-)
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          With all due respect, since what you're talking about is Ron Paul's "tax day tea parties" (old Republican grumps in mock-colonial garb whining about taxes) being replaced by Dick Armey's Teabaggers (Aetna employees in Aetna blazers chanting slogans against health care), you're merely discussing astroturf replacing astroturf.

          Frankly, several Democratic Party "camp-followers" have already founded a few well-funded vanity projects of that sort that are currently sucking the air out of the political atmosphere, & I for 1 want nothing to do with those people.

          Occupy was/is true grass roots — & you can tell how much the neoliberal establishment hated & feared them by how brutal their hired goons have been to its outward signs. What it needs now is a constant, society-changing street-presence.

          •  Astroturf is astroturf (1+ / 0-)
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            and words and phrases matter when you have blanket coverage from coast-to-coast. The words "Tea Party" have been re-defined in terms of "audience reaction". Kind of like "impeachment" has.

            There's a whole sub-chapter of propaganda devoted to that sort of thing...

            "The “Left” is NOT divided on the need to oppose austerity and the Great Betrayal. The Third Way is not left or center or even right. It is Wall Street on the Potomac."--Bill Black

            by lunachickie on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 02:18:54 PM PDT

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      •  Absolutely (2+ / 0-)
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        And good companies don't blame the employees walking away for their leadership failures - they blame the poor leadership.

        However, the Democratic Party Third-Way Beltway Corporate-Coin-Operated Party and their apologists continue to blame the voters for not continuing to suck it up and stand in line for hours to vote for a party that repeatedly fails to represent their interests.   We work hard to elect people to represent our interests and when they repeatedly support policies that don't they cannot expect people to support their re-election.

        Yes, the other guys are worse.  Much worse.  But continuing to work for and vote for those who treat us like chumps says more about us than it does about them.

        There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

        by Puddytat on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 04:39:46 PM PDT

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