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  •  For some reason.... (7+ / 0-)

    I thought a diary asking John Kerry to pitch a tent was going to be some form of snark.

    Color me surprised.

    I'd be equally surprised to see either men sitting in a tent for any great length of time (and, rest assured, to reach peace in the Middle East would indeed require a 'great length of time').

    Interesting proposal, though.

    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

    by Kysen on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 07:26:12 AM PDT

    •  Thanks. Yes, on first blush, I can understand (5+ / 0-)

      how this might be considered snark. It was my original reaction when I read Netanyahu's bombastic words.

      I'd love to see him be forced to back them up.

      "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

      by David Harris Gershon on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 07:30:45 AM PDT

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    •  I don't think its a real tent . (1+ / 0-)
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      I think its a way of saying
      stay until done .

      The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

      by indycam on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 07:38:38 AM PDT

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      •  Of course, you're right. I simply like the imagery (4+ / 0-)

        and the dynamic it presents.

        "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

        by David Harris Gershon on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 07:43:47 AM PDT

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        •  as do i. (3+ / 0-)

          signed.   thanks.

          "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

          by kj in missouri on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 07:54:18 AM PDT

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        •  The problem might not be solvable (2+ / 0-)
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          by "pitching a tent" . Pitching a tent between two sets of people at war doesn't really work .
          If he pitches a tent and can't fix the problems those sets of people have ?

          Don't get me wrong , I'd love for an outsider to go in and bring all the fighting to an end right now but I doubt the problem is the lack of John Kerry tent pitching .

          The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

          by indycam on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 08:05:03 AM PDT

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          •  My doubts about Kerry's efforts are immense. (3+ / 0-)
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            This is more about a) forcing Netanyahu to act upon words of bombast he did not mean, and b) to have the WH respond to the situation and Kerry's efforts.

            "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

            by David Harris Gershon on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 08:11:21 AM PDT

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            •  Well then (0+ / 0-)
              forcing Netanyahu to act upon words of bombast he did not mean,
              its not about getting the two sides to stop fighting ?

              The only reason to pitch tent is that there is a real chance of getting the two sides to hammer out a deal that gets the two sides to stop fighting .
              If the situation is such that pitching a tent will not get the desired results , pitching a tent is non productive .
              Asking John Kerry to pitch a tent when its not going to be productive , in hopes of doing something to Netanyahu ...

              Netanyahu says to Kerry , if you think you can solve all of this , if you think there is a way to stop all of this , lets do it , I'm in .
              And you say , Kerry go and do it .
              I'm thinking you are asking Kerry to do more than what is possible for him to do because Netanyahu challenged him to do it .

              The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

              by indycam on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 08:34:53 AM PDT

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              •  The action would be stopping (0+ / 0-)

                The fighting. Specifically telling bibi to do something about the violence. Certainly it would give the US more credibility than it has now in the conflict. No guarantee it would work, obviously, but what has?

                If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

                by AoT on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 10:20:12 AM PDT

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      •  I think the tent is metaphor for (1+ / 0-)
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        face the daily risk of a rocket attack without a hardened shelter. (Try to go to sleep every night, not knowing if you'll sleep or live through the night).

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 08:27:44 AM PDT

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        •  Why ? (1+ / 0-)
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          As a representative of the USA
          Kerry is in danger of attack all the time .

          Anybody who asks Kerry to put himself in greater danger
          as a stunt , would be a ridiculous person .
          I very much doubt that was what Netanyahu was saying .

          Come and put yourself at risk of death ?
          That's not a thing that does anything for Netanyahu , imho .
          Unless Kerry was saying there was no fighting / risk to the people of Israel .
          But I don't think Kerry ever said such a thing .

          The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

          by indycam on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 08:58:18 AM PDT

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          •  Oh, I completely agree with you (0+ / 0-)

            the suggestion was as dramatic and dumb as the NRA using the presidents' daughters to suggest every school child deserves the same security detail as presidents children.

            "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

            by LilithGardener on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 09:07:15 AM PDT

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          •  The metaphor was for a certain section of (1+ / 0-)
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            the Israeli electorate who feel alone, isolated, and that they will never be safe until they receive their "Biblical inheritance," while they squat on Palestinian land.

            Biblical inheritance is a euphemism for eliminating all other claims to the land.

            "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

            by LilithGardener on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 09:10:10 AM PDT

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