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  •  It's the fact that Greenwald has been hammering (3+ / 0-)
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    this trope consistently, focusing on the "liberal as hypocrite" characterization such that there's no room, seemingly, to highlight those voices which counter this trope.

    It's not the word. It's the caricature he's built.

    "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

    by David Harris Gershon on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 01:07:24 PM PDT

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    •  But.... (2+ / 0-)
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      ....if he isn't make the argument that all liberals are hypocrites, then there is no trope to counter. Unless you think that people are buying this argument. I don't understand your problem here. What exactly would you prefer that he be doing?

      Tyrion Lannister: "It's not easy being drunk all the time. Everyone would do it if it were easy."

      by psychodrew on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 01:12:02 PM PDT

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    •  If you're going to make this argument (10+ / 0-)

      It might help to have more citations of the caricature.  I read the tweet as referring to "liberals [who do that]", not as "liberals [who all do that]".  

      My reading makes perfect sense in its own context, and is a far more plausible interpretation than what you're suggesting.  Your alternate reading (as I understand it) requires more buttressing for support.

      We have always been at war with al Qaeda.

      by Dallasdoc on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 01:31:42 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, I completely see how you could view it (1+ / 0-)
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        this way. I just didn't have the energy to cull all the Tweets from recent days.

        Thanks Dallasdoc.

        "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

        by David Harris Gershon on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 01:50:06 PM PDT

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    •  He's primarilyh talking about Democrats (0+ / 0-)

      rather than the ideology called Liberalism

      Its like when people here can breathelessly say many things that aren't Liberal values, but they nevertheless claim the label Liberal simply because they support the Democratic Party.

      This is actually a recurring theme of his. That the democrats v GOP shapes the debates of what is and is not acceptable believe to the point that it distorts

      Most of the people he's talking about aren't really, but they think they are.

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