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  •  Then there is no reason not to block (6+ / 0-)

    It.  Let then ship it by rail if that is so cheap and easy.   Of course it isn't cheap and easy which is why they want a pipeline

    Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion. An activist seeks to change opinion.

    by Mindful Nature on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 11:58:13 PM PDT

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    •  The environment is the reason why. (1+ / 0-)
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      That is why pretending that stopping the pipeline from being completed is going to deter those who don't believe in climate change is a questionable tactic. They will gladly pay the extra $20 per barrel.

      I'm not sure it is much of a tradeoff routing that sludge through a bunch of small towns instead of through a pipeline. And none of the other alternative routes are any less destructive. As long as demand for the product remains high, then the oil companies have zero incentive to leave that stuff in the ground, send those workers home, and walk away.

      It is the developing of the tar sands and the burning of the refined product that is the real culprit. That is why I don't want to turn Keystone into the war when it is just another battle. We will have to keep fighting those battles whether it is completed or not and I question whether everyone is prepared for that reality?

      The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

      by sebastianguy99 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 12:49:32 AM PDT

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      •  There are arguments on both sides but XL has (2+ / 0-)
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        become symbolic and has brought out the activism in a nation of spectators.  For this I've come to see it as more than just another battle.

        It's the biggest battle right now, and there are no good reasons for building the pipeline.  And if it can get Americans away from their tvs and devices and out into the streets it could be pivotal.

      •  Partly right (1+ / 0-)
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        But basic economic suggests that driving up the costs of production reduces incentives to develop a resource, so making it more expensive to ship should slow the exploitation of it.  Second, it will send a strong signal that the level of regulatory risk involved in fossil fuel exploitation is higher than is currently accounted for, which should influence investment and ratings.  It brings us closer to evaluating fossil fuel reserves properly

        Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion. An activist seeks to change opinion.

        by Mindful Nature on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 07:23:36 AM PDT

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