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  •  Like I said, it was cowardly not to veto it... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...but it would have still been law until this morning even with his veto.

    So I'm kinda wondering whether you've ever heard of Bob Barr?

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    by kenlac on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 08:33:42 AM PDT

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    •  nice deflection. (2+ / 0-)
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      It's one thing to be stabbed in the chest by an enemy; another to be stabbed in the back by a "friend."

      YMMV.

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      by corvo on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 08:39:16 AM PDT

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      •  oh for the love of gravy (8+ / 0-)

        what exactly does "veto-proof" mean to you?

        do you get that congress has the power to override a presidential veto?

        so, pray tell:  how was clinton supposed to stop a veto-proof bill from becoming law?

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        by Cedwyn on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 09:17:29 AM PDT

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        •  Who said anything about stopping an override? (1+ / 0-)
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          You sign a bill because you think it's the right thing to do -- not because your veto of it would be overridden anyway.

          What part of that don't you get?

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 09:23:03 AM PDT

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        •  I think the point here is that Clinton could have (0+ / 0-)

          not signed it, then after 10 days, it would automatically become a law. That way, Clinton could maintain his displeasure with the DOMA bill by not signing it, yet avoid the near-certain veto override.

          By signing it, he owned it. He should have sent a signal that he disavows the bill by not signing at all. It still would have become law anyway.

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          by BlueMindState on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 04:40:47 PM PDT

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