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  •  If it dies in the House (5+ / 0-)

    it will not be all bad.  I want for the undocumented people to be able to come out of the shadows, but I also don't want an expanded H1B program that threatens to bring 180,000 foreign workers a year to the U.S. when corporate America won't hire qualified native-born workers in this country and pay a decent wage.  Only 65,000 H1B visas a year are currently granted.  Perhaps this is the price corporate America extracted for their support of this bill, but it's too high.

    For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. --John Maynard Keynes

    by Kurt from CMH on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 03:46:15 PM PDT

    •  I feel like a jerk for the sake of Latinos (2+ / 0-)
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      But this bill is bad for US labor in general and the path to citizenship is pretty crappy. I'm indifferent to its passage and want badly for its failure to give us back the House so we can pass a better bill in 2015. The fact is, waiting two years may mean a faster overall path to citizenship.

      There's a difference between a responsible gun owner and one that's been lucky so far.

      by BeerNotWar on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 03:53:36 PM PDT

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      •  The path to citizenship (5+ / 0-)

        is fine. It gets them out of the shadows immediately, which is the most important part.

        In fact, in past amnesties, less than half of the eligible immigrants end up getting citizenship. Most just want to be able to live their lives and provide for their families.

        •  Yep, I'm a jerk (0+ / 0-)

          If this weren't important to immigrants it would have no power to impact the election -- I get that. I don't feel great about focusing on the politics of it. But part of my problem is my job or wages could be harmed if the HB1 visa count increases. I can't entirely ignore my own personal interest in this. I also hate the further militarization of border patrol. Really ambivalent.

          Fact is what any of us wants won't matter much, it's in the hands of the nuttiest people on the planet: House Republicans.

          There's a difference between a responsible gun owner and one that's been lucky so far.

          by BeerNotWar on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:15:58 PM PDT

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    •  Wrong, 65,000 Is The Current H-1B Visa Cap (1+ / 0-)
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      Jeff Simpson

      Only 65,000 H1B visas a year are currently granted

      Do to exemptions from the cap, carve outs, etc. for fiscal year 2011 269,653 H-1B visa petitions were approved.

      How many will be approved when the cap is extended to 180,000?

      I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

      by superscalar on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:23:52 PM PDT

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