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  •  just a another nail in the coffin (8+ / 0-)

    You know historically speaking it's kinda funny as the hard right Christian thing is new relative to the age of the USA.

    And I certainly won't miss it going back to the fringe

    In the time that I have been given,
    I am what I am

    by duhban on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 05:17:43 PM PDT

    •  hard right christianity is older than the republic (6+ / 0-)

      not the only strain, or the truest one, but it's been around since the english got tired of puritans telling everyone what to do and sent them packing.

      •  to one extent or another yes (1+ / 0-)
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        but it's never been as popular as it has been till lately.

        In the time that I have been given,
        I am what I am

        by duhban on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 11:04:30 PM PDT

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        •  evidence/statistics? (1+ / 0-)
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          definition of what right christian means would be the biggest factor in even measuring it.

          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

            http://www.jstor.org/...

            http://books.google.ca/...

            I can try to put together something more concrete in diary form but not till after the 4th holiday weekend.

            In the time that I have been given,
            I am what I am

            by duhban on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 11:32:36 PM PDT

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          •  I think this really depends (1+ / 0-)
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            on what you mean by the Christian right.  Anyone with knowledge of the "Great awakening" in the 1830's and 40' would be skeptical of the idea that fundamentalist Christianity is stronger today than ever.

            150 years ago if you walked into what are now mainline protestant churches you would think you just walked into a Baptist Church.

          •  S/he is sorta right (0+ / 0-)

            Small o orthodox Christianity predates the Settlement.  But only in the past 50 years or so has adherence to it come to mean being social reactionaries and identifying with reactionary political movements.

            Around 75% of the population identifies as Christian, with 30-40% of the population identifying as theologically committed Christians.  Both the softcore and the hardcore Christian identification sink as the No Religion demographic expands.

            I've seen debates in conservative circles whether people can be authentic conservatives if they're not religious.  The consensus is basically no.  Some form of Ancient World religious adherence- to Plato or other kinds of gussied up Ancient World paganism, to illiberal Christianities, to illiberal Judaism- is  non-optional to have cred.  Of course there's an internal ranking and Muslims, Jews, Platonists, and right wing Protestants are deemed substantially lesser than ortho Catholics.  The breakup and decline of the Anglicans and the vote-with-their-feet decline of white Catholics are considered tragedies internally.

      •  Yes, it's at least that old. eom (0+ / 0-)

        Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 02:35:54 AM PDT

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