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  •  Just the opposite, I think... (6+ / 0-)

    Big hard drives are getting super cheap.  Massive economy of scale, you know?

    Plenty of factory capacity.

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    by No one gets out alive on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 06:05:18 PM PDT

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    •  Outfit like the NSA could place a bulk order for (6+ / 0-)

      … a custom design, and take delivery of the entire output of a factory run.

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      by lotlizard on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:36:46 PM PDT

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    •  Until the next tsunami or flood -- the latter of (4+ / 0-)
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      which really spiked HDD prices a couple years back.

      I wonder if Kasich's two young daughters know what Daddy just did to them?

      by here4tehbeer on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:40:49 PM PDT

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    •  Not the drives the SAN storage boxes (3+ / 0-)
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      add tremendously to the cost...

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      by JML9999 on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:47:27 PM PDT

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      •  The project I work on can have a petabyte (3+ / 0-)
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        in a single storage cabinet, and that's with just normal compression, not with something like Dedupe, which may increase compression by major factors depending upon the type of data.

        Prices drop, and for large customers who can buy multiples of these, they do get price breaks.

        BTW, the server nodes can have a terabyte of RAM in them, which is four times what the diary lists, and we've got other servers which can easily hold more.  Have multiple processors with multiple cores and our appliance can have 40 cores doing the processing right now, with more in the next version right around the corner.  Most home computers have 2-4 cores processing data traffic, with maybe 8 Gigabytes for RAM and maybe a 1Terabyte disk.

        Big data is really big, as are capabilities to process and use the data.

        •  Just went and verified - servers have 8TB of (4+ / 0-)
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          RAM, not just 1TB.  Those are also relatively well-equipped, but when time is money, they really don't work out to be too expensive compared to how much data you wind up crunching through them.  When a Fortune 100 company has to find a piece of data - for example, when you visit a website and want to know what your account looks like or reconcile your statement from six months ago, you expect the company to be able to provide that in a couple of seconds.  That's what the companies demand from big data and that will continue to grow.  I'm not even going to address what a government might demand for performance.

          •  Link? (3+ / 0-)
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            I was looking into the RAM too. The 192 is a limitation of Windows O/S which I accepted because of relatability of most of my readers. I would think Lynx O/S would support Tb's of RAM.

            I don't have a contact at CDW anymore. When I spoke with a friend who does he mentioned their sales staff is under so much pressure these days, they don't have time to chat like they used to. The only way to stay up on the new equipment is to read hardware trade publications and I have enough trouble staying current on heath EHR to do that.

            Thanks for your input.

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            by JDWolverton on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 10:22:35 AM PDT

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    •  Until the next flood (2+ / 0-)
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      in Thailand.

      Global Economy FAIL

      This better be good. Because it is not going away.

      by DerAmi on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 09:34:33 PM PDT

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