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  •  That's like saying because we have guns (9+ / 0-)

    we shouldn't be worried about nuclear weapons. There's a logical flaw there involve degree. You seem to not see magnitude as a legitimate time to raise a question versus the mere existence of a problem in the past.

    Your arguments are actually very similar gto the magnitude questions raised by the NRA. people have knives so why should'n't they have more powerful weapons? The answer is magnitude but if you want to pretend that doesn't matter, I suppose you would see such risk anlaysis as naive rahter than prudent.

    The problem here is your definition of naive ignores magnitude and as Richard may be implying wasting tax payers dollars (at a time when we need it for other things) on corporate interests

    •  please point to where I agree with doing it (1+ / 0-)
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      Yoshimi

      your ability to supposedly read my mind is astounding to say the least since i never posted anything close to the sort you imply i meant

      •  Well, give your defensive response (4+ / 0-)
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        Richard Lyon, corvo, lotlizard, emal

        I can read you aren't understanding the implications of the argument you wrote.

        I can read your argument. I can understand its implications and meaning.

        I can place that in the context of what the diarist wrote. I can understand its implications and meaning.

        None of which requires reading your mind. Whats your head is irrelevant.

        If you are done being defensive, the point remains your argument makes no sense if you consider change in magnitude, not just kind (which was your argument), important.

        •  No, my argument was that we have always been doing (1+ / 0-)
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          congenitalefty

          so

          honestly I disagree with whole heartedly going all the way back

          In Fact , am thoroughly against separate nation states to begin with.  separate nation states are a barbaric anachronism and not befitting an evolving humanity in the 21st century...but that is a different subject from the diary

          •  Your argument has little meaning (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            as far as magnitude which is what's being implicitedly discussed here

            Can you point to some historic examples that may have occured> maybe but the power is in magnitude

            You aren't in the world where people could get around the system anymore

            As for the n ation state point, yes, its not refelctive of a post industrial economy, but that doesn;t mean this shit is a good thing

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