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  •  The CIA has spied for American companies... (12+ / 0-)

    ...for a long time.

    This from Mother Jones in 1994;

    According to administration officials and sources in the intelligence community, the CIA has already begun a clandestine effort to help the American auto industry.

    Since the end of the Cold War, Washington has been abuzz with talk about using the CIA for economic espionage. Stripped of euphemism, economic espionage simply means that American spies would target foreign companies, such as Toyota, Nissan, and Honda, and then covertly pass stolen trade secrets and technology to U.S. corporate executives.

    Wall Street and DC are one and the same.

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    by Shockwave on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 11:15:34 AM PDT

    •  And I see no reason (7+ / 0-)

      to believe that NSA is not doing the same thing.

      •  It must be related (4+ / 0-)

        And yes, people here say, "but we've always spied on allies," etc., etc. But hey, maybe the next time America's leaders get all up in arms about China's state-sponsored corporate espionage, at the very least, we can remember that the USA is no better on this, and in fact may be worse. That would at least save us all from a lot of hot air.

        "As the madmen play on words, and make us all dance to their song / to the tune of starving millions, to make a better kind of gun..." -- Iron Maiden

        by Lost Left Coaster on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 12:46:47 PM PDT

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    •  What about the NSA helping Monsanto (1+ / 0-)
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      spying on their opponents? What about spying in other countries, where they might fear that elements in those countries  start to oppose the land grabs that might be done for the profit of companies like ADM and Monsanto? How about finding out who in that country is willing to "cooperate" with the land grab deals and who is not. Question then is,  would the NSA provide the data and are they used in decision making of who gets surveillance and weapons to protect those countries and willing cooperative governments from the bad, bad people, who don't want their land being taken away.

      I could imagine there is lots of data collected on this by the spy agencies and made available to those international corporations.

      But it's just a guess, has someone proofs about it?

      •  They may be more involved in something else (0+ / 0-)

        Is the National Security Agency behind Bitcoin?

        Recently a 1996 NSA report surfaced, ‘predicting’ a crypto-cyber unit eerily close to Bitcoin. So eerily close, that, knowing their M.O., the question arises whether this report is a prediction, or a plan.
        An interesting issue is In-Q-Tel’s involvement. In-Q-Tel is the ‘not for profit’ investment arm of the CIA. Undoubtedly just another control mechanism. In-Q-Tel is investing or planning on investing in Bitcoin, presumably by buying some of them. The CIA has been involved in an extensive dialogue with Bitcoin people. It is unclear as to what this ‘dialogue’ amounts to, but obviously, combined with this shocking NSA paper, the whole thing looks pretty suspect.

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        by Shockwave on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 03:58:28 PM PDT

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        •  uhm, have no opinion on that, because I have (0+ / 0-)

          never heard or read about that. Must read up on it. Sounds weird.

          Who are the Bitcoin people?

          OK, I am leaving, it's too much for me for today.

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