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  •  "Enhanced interrogation". He's advocated for it (6+ / 0-)

    in the past - and as W explained . . . waterboarding is not torture... and even if it is, HOlder won't prosecute you as long as he's looking forward to a fat corporate future . . .

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

    by bobdevo on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 11:10:25 AM PDT

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    •  Sounds like our CONSTITUTION is in the CLAPPER (8+ / 0-)

      when:

      waterboarding is NOT torture

      when:

      lying to Congress is NOT perjury

      Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

      by Einsteinia on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 11:17:22 AM PDT

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      •  I remember the day the facade fell away-literally: (5+ / 0-)
        Monday - 11/28/2005, 2:26pm  ET
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        By ANDREW BRIDGES
        Associated Press Writer

        WASHINGTON - A basketball-sized piece of marble molding fell from the facade over the entrance to the Supreme Court Monday, landing on the steps near visitors waiting to enter the building. No one was hurt.

        The chunk of Vermont marble was part of the dentil molding that serves as a frame for nine sculptural figures completed in 1935. The piece that fell was over the figure of Authority, near the peak of the building's pediment, and to the right of the figure of Liberty, who has the scales of justice on her lap.

        We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

        by nuclear winter solstice on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 01:27:02 PM PDT

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        •  Was it before or after that... (4+ / 0-)

          ... when KKKarl Rove and Harriet Meiers thumbed their noses at Congress and didn't show up per their summonses...?

          I don't recall either one ever was charged with a crime or had their asses hauled before Congress.

          When such underlings were "untouchable" by even Congress, I knew that that was the final straw of having a legal government in charge.

          We're still on the downward slide on a greased slippery slope toward a fascist nation in all but name.

          The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.
               — Franklin D. Roosevelt, April 29, 1938. Message to Congress

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 04:36:51 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, and of course, those little indiscretions (2+ / 0-)
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            NonnyO, bobdevo

            like lying us into war & Cheney outting Valerie Plame.

            We need to have consequences that are at least equal to someone shoplifting at Walmart.

            Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

            by Einsteinia on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 11:17:57 PM PDT

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