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  •  I think that the LGBT movement (2+ / 0-)
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    baited republicans into that fight. They clearly positioned themselves on the other side of the culture war years ago and have been baiting the right ever since. Most of that baiting actually consisted of just being themselves in public, but it was enough. Perhaps baited is a bit much, but when you look at the language the right used it was certainly how they saw it. How to repeat that in other cases I don't know.

    If you beat up an underdog too mercilessly in America, there is a high probability that that underdog will eventually be perceived as a hero worth helping.
    Indeed.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 02:50:44 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think they baited anyone actually. (4+ / 0-)

      We know from accounts that came from within the Republican Party that the concept of gay marriage as a "threat" was created and initiated by Karl Rove in a cynical ploy to keep his Bible thumpers engaged and active in the Republican Party.

      I remember when it first started to hit the news that we were all going to be "protected from gay marriage" by the Republicans and I remember laughing out loud because of DOMA and because there was no place in this country where gay people could legally marry at that time.  It was more fictitious threat fodder from the GOP.

      That opened the door for gay folks to ask why not; and for most normal people to come to think "well that's silly."

      •  Don't forget how Republicans (0+ / 0-)

        allowed gay marriage to go forward in Massachusetts in 2004, when they had the power to stop it.  Preserving the sanctity of marriage was less important than using it as a club to beat John Kerry with.

        Thanks, Republicans.

        The Constitution is a suicide pact.

        by happymisanthropy on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 09:29:11 PM PDT

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