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  •  Your last line is funny because that's (30+ / 0-)

    why I think that neither Russia nor China are particularly interested in Snowden as a source.  My guess is that they already knew about much/all of what he disclosed and probably know much more.  

    In addition, my suspicion is that with all of the private contractors involved it is just unbelievable to think that there is any clear chain of command so to speak that would allow anyone to really monitor and provide meaningful oversight of the activities.

    Finally, it is hard for me to believe that many people who sit on the intelligence committees in Congress have a freaking clue about data systems; how they work or what these data collection programs are capable of doing.

    There was that one Congressman whose name I do not remember who said that he went to the official briefings, but couldn't understand most of what they were talking about.  I give him credit for admitting that.  Most Members of Congress aren't elected on the basis of being IT geniuses.  Given Clapper's track record of lying openly in front of cameras, one can only wonder what he and his people are saying to unwitting Congressional audiences in their secret briefings - things that those Members are barred from talking about with anyone, at all.  There is no way for the Members to independently verify the data and information they are being given which is pretty terrifying since they are being briefed by trained spies whose two leading tactics tend to be lying and manipulation - just as a basic job requirement.

    I don't even want to think about what those judges at FISC must be hearing and whether or not that's being accurately described to them...

    •  I've also read (4+ / 0-)

      that there are 1000's of sys-admins with the access to do exactly what Snowden did.  With that many people with admin access there is no way this data is a closely held secret.  The people in charge might think it is, but not with that many people involved.  I would not be surprised to find out later that they are using the default admin password on many of these systems because people are lazy and having too many passwords is hard.

    •  Those FISC judges know the constitution (1+ / 0-)
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      inclusiveheart

      They know damn well they're violating it twenty times a day. They're not being played, they're complicit.

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