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  •  How many more states needed? 33 technically (1+ / 0-)
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    Why do I say that? Because of the two ways to amend the Constituiton.

    The First way is for either Congress or the States to propose an amendment ot the Constitution. In this case, the State "Called for" an amendment, not Proposed one.  No state has proposed one that i've seen reported.

    If it comes from the Congress, then both Houses of Congress must propose the amendment with a two-thirds vote. This is how all current amendments have been offered.

    OR two-thirds of the State legislatures must call on Congress to hold a Constitutional Convention.

    So 33 States could order a Constitutional Convention (which would have the ability to amend more than just Citizens United, it could change or even throw out the whole thing.)

    But since Congress has not proposed an amendment, and the states have not proposed an amendment or demanded a Convention, there is no amendment to get 33 states to support.

    One of the nice things about getting a Convention would be the total overhaul of the Constitution, As Ms. Ruth Bader Ginsburg said about the US Constitution when asked by an interviewer if she thought Egypt should use the Constitutions of other countries as a model, Ginsburg said Egyptians should be “aided by all Constitution-writing that has gone on since the end of World War II.”
    I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a Constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the Constitution of South Africa,” says Ginsburg,

    Stupid question hour starts now and ends in five minutes.

    by DrillSgtK on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 05:06:37 PM PDT

    •  Untill the conservatives join the 21th century (0+ / 0-)

      A constitutional convention will be dangerous but necessary.  As I see it, they are unlikely to accept any of the reforms that we would desire.  They will oppose guaranteeing the right to vote, the public financing of campaigns and electoral districts drawn by non partisan commissions.  

      I would still be wiling to roll the dice on it... after 2020.

      I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

      by DavidMS on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 07:20:33 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, the "called for" thing is a cop-out. (0+ / 0-)

      If these 16 states want an amendment, they should agree on language and have their legislatures formally approve it, and then "call for" 17 more states to do the same.

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