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  •  Going by that standard (8+ / 0-)

    the KKK and neo-Nazis should have a voice here.

    No we all can't get along because white people think they're better when they aren't. They are the ones who raped, robbed and pillaged. They are the violent ones. This violent culture is 100% theirs.
    Change the adjective "white" to anything else and this user would be banned.  

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 07:58:34 AM PDT

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    •  You so overreaching. (12+ / 0-)

      Comparing the views of a black woman whose ancestors were enslaved and who still has to live with the daily consequences of living while black with that of of neo-Nazis and KKK?
      That's the problem. We want to pretend as if the past didn't happen. Or as if we have even acknowledged the sins of the past and attempted to right the wrongs.

      Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

      by JoanMar on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 08:13:30 AM PDT

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      •  Overreaching? How? (3+ / 0-)
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        It's offensive. At least it is to ME.  I'm white, and I don't feel and think the way the commenter said I feel and think simply because I have a certain skin color.  And I don't like being told how I feel and think-- especially if I'm being told that what I feel and think is ugly and wrong.  And I don't like it when somebody thinks he or she knows how I feel and think simply because my skin is a certain color.

        It's wrong -- and I hope you think it's wrong, too.

    •  Now that CT is celebrated and Recommended here (0+ / 0-)

      here at DailyAlexJonesKos, everything goes, apparently.  

    •  Yes, and...? (4+ / 0-)
      Change the adjective "white" to anything else and this user would be banned.
      Yes, because "white" is a singular case in terms of ethnic groups that have wielded hegemonic power in the US over the last few hundred years, and used that power to oppress other groups.

      Or, to put it simply, we're far less tolerant of attacks aimed at groups who have experienced historic oppression. I realise that this is a horrible burden to bear. But I'm sure that any other ethnic group would gladly take up that burden in exchange for an end to, say, DWB or stop-and-frisk.

    •  um - black folks here (8+ / 0-)

      are not feeling very loving right now - SCOTUS just gutted VRA, affirmative action - and are ready to do more damage.

      Folks here pay almost no attention to cases like that of the Angola 3 - 2 of whom have been in solitary for 40 years ...

      I actually understand where a2 - who is a black woman is coming from.

      Do I think all white people are racist?

      No.  Because they aren't.

      Do all white people benefit from race privilege - yes.

      Accept it - and fight against it.

      Rather than get defensive.

      Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

      by Denise Oliver Velez on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 02:04:54 PM PDT

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      •  So the answer is just lump all whites together (1+ / 0-)
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        and say we're all racists?   Forget that!

        I'm anti-racist, and I've learned a lot from reading your material about white privilege;   but why do you insist on giving cover to the most extreme statements?  

        No we all can't get along because white people think they're better when they aren't. They are the ones who raped, robbed and pillaged. They are the violent ones. This violent culture is 100% theirs.
        How does shit like that help anything?  Do you really think that method is affective for getting people to change their thinking?  I sure as hell don't.  

        The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

        by Beelzebud on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 03:31:56 PM PDT

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        •  why would anyone in their right (2+ / 0-)
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          mind - if they hated all white people - post at Daily Kos - which is pretty much all white people?

          Why would anyone join Black Kos - which is mostly white people?

          What I said was - some people are very upset - and a2 is one of them.

          Did you read what I wrote?

          Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

          by Denise Oliver Velez on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 05:35:23 PM PDT

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