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  •  You are referring to my diary as "navel-gazing"? (3+ / 0-)

    No.

    I wrote this diary because race in America is an important and ongoing discussion, and I feel that many white Americans are not comfortable participating in the discussion because of their discomfort with their own white privilege as it relates to the discussion, as well as their own racial prejudices, conscious or subconscious.

    At worst, this results in the discussion about race devolving into a circle-jerk against white privilege, which appears to many white people as hostile to them, which drives them away from the discussion.

    I am not denying white privilege, or institutionalized racism, or that many white people who do not consider themselves racist actually harbor racial prejudice. I am simply saying that if we as Americans are going to become comfortable talking to each other about race, white people need to be able to say something in the conversation other than "I'm sorry", or they will be too afraid to have it.

    Point out attitudes that are racially prejudiced, yes. Demonize people as irredeemable racists, no.

    Unless they are, in fact, irredeemable racists. Then fuck em.

    Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

    by Boogalord on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 11:35:02 AM PDT

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    •  No; I am not referring to your diary (3+ / 0-)
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      Dube, serendipityisabitch, m2old4bs

      as "navel gazing".

      I am referring to the all too common practice by some of the denizens of this forum to pick nits and create tangents when the subject pushes them out of their comfort zone and compels them to examine their own experience. Some would prefer to find a reason, no matter how small, to dismiss your diary and derail the conversation because their comfort is, in their estimation, more important than either...

      Fear doesn't just breed incomprehension. It also breeds a spiteful, resentful hate of anyone and everyone who is in any way different from you.

      by awesumtenor on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 02:04:20 PM PDT

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    •  Your new trainee (2+ / 0-)
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      LilithGardener, Ahianne

      --and you, yourself, as well as the young customer you described -- are on the front lines in the divide-and-conquer strategies of those who hold the only meaningful privilege left -- extreme wealth.  

      All three of you must work your way through life. But education is costly, decent jobs are scarce, and the idea of trade/craft apprenticeship has given way to union-busting and privilege-based unpaid internships.

      You are led (by media and political grandstanding and seriously flawed identity politics) to distrust everyone, fear solidarity, and spend what resources you manage to capture on transitory consumables that fool you into thinking you're somehow on a track to success.  

      I'm glad that, at 24, you are thoughtful and literate enough to compose this diary.  Bridges don't build themselves, and as you've suggested, the plans we're using need some updates.

    •  Just change (0+ / 0-)

      one word. Just one little word. Your diary is about racial stereotyping and we your readers are pointing out some sexual stereotyping of which you were unaware. We have done just what you did to your trainee. Change the word.

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