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View Diary: Fact Checking Josh Fox/Gasland #2; Oil/Gas Industry NOT Exempt from Clean Air/Clean Water Acts (133 comments)

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  •  On the Thoroughbred Coal Plant (1+ / 0-)
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    Adam AZ

    Here is my work product concerning the Thoroughbred Coal Plant which I did for the Owensboro Building and Construction Trades Council:

    I am proud to have as clients union Democrats and union labor organizations who sometimes ask me to review environmental matters of facilities proposed for construction, such as air and water permits for new facilities.   I do a great deal of work for labor unions, particularly union this:

    These projects are examples where unions and their organizations ask me to prepare comments concerning
    air and water permits to ensure they actually comply with permitting requirements.

    Are you saying that unions are not supposed to care about environmental protection and environmental enforcement at facilities of interest to them?

    •  I'm saying (1+ / 0-)
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      that unions have a financial interest in promoting polluting projects that will provide their members jobs, and since you help them in their efforts, you have a financial interest in promoting those polluting projects as well.

      •  you continue to make bad assumptions about why (1+ / 0-)
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        Adam AZ

        a labor union would want to hire me to file the toughest, most adverse comments emphasizing air/water permitting rule enforcement that I could write in order to attack the issuance of an air quality permit or wastewater permit.

        You're not very perceptive about figuring out why a labor union would want me to do the things I do.   First, you did not perceive that comments that I write for filing are not something that a business applying for an air or water permit wants to have to deal with or address.   I've got a national reputation out there and no company wants to see me show up filing detailed technical comments on their air permit because it will always be trouble for them.  Here, for example, is a comment that recently helped squelch a refinery permit from
        being issued as proposed in Utah:

        Do you have some kind of a problem with labor unions using environmental law against facilities and asking for tough enforcement of permitting requirements?

    •  And pipefitters unions (1+ / 0-)
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      expect to get many new jobs in the fracking industry. So maybe that explains your sympathies with your former and future clients who support fracking?

      •  There is an oil and gas industry (1+ / 0-)
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        Adam AZ

        There is not a "fracking" industry.  

        And union pipefitters don't always get the job, unfortunately and speaking as a Democrat.

        My past work for Democrats who are union members does not have anything at all to do with my statements about the oil and gas industry, with the preparation of these diaries and with my opinions about environmental control in the oil and gas industry.

        •  lol (1+ / 0-)
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          Your artistic use of deflection is almost impressive.

          Is your laughable claim that there's no "fracking" industry relevant to the fact that you have clients with a financial interest in fracking? No.

          Is the fact that union pipefitters don't always get the job relevant to your financial relationship with unions that promote fracking? No.

          This comment is the perfect example of how your red herring arguments on technicalities make your diary technically accurate while being essentially misleading.

          I'll restate the question in my other comment that you haven't gotten around to answering yet.

          Have regulatory agencies been given authority to regulate fracking in a way that will adequately protect drinking water supplies? You would be the first environmentalist I've encountered who thinks so.

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